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Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 7 August 2011 9:40:13 AM
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Dear Banjo,
It is a shame that the ver moderate attempt by the Government to do something about this issue has become so politicised. http://newmatilda.com/2011/07/25/ends-political-incorrectness This should serve as a warning to us all. BTW: on the subject of climate change the following explains the various policies: http://newmatilda.com/2011/08/04/finally-climate-policies-explained Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 7 August 2011 10:36:39 AM
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Banjo,
Thank you for posting that link & that wont be all the costs exposed either. I am outraged . My disgust is absolute. Dear Lexi, said 3) *This is an unjustified attack on public servants from a Shadow Treaserur whose knee-jerk response to advice about problems with his policy is to threaten the public service.* It is an unjustified attack but not on public servants. What are public servants anyway to you? Can you pls explain this- What is it with alp supporters. Is it being involved in something. The sense of beloning? This is why indeed motor bike clubs are formed & a big fight to wear the colors & so on. For the life of me whats happened to labor Lexi? Why are you & yours not out there *screaming about the man who has been denied the drugs to keep him alive to look after his kids while $ are spent on this . We are heading for a depression - can you not see that? I am of no party- well thats not quite true actually. I just remembered I joined the very new Animal Justice Party. But still this is wasted at a time we cant afford to waste a $. We are borrowing 135B a day Lexi- do you understand this.? I am not trying to offend you - I really am totally frustrated. Posted by Kerryanne, Sunday, 7 August 2011 11:00:36 AM
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Dear Kerryanne,
A bit of advice. Always argue in a logical manner. Sound reasoning will conquer unreasonable generalisations every time. Don't appear to be arguing on an emotional level - but a mature, intelligent one. Whether you encounter a disagreement at home, work, a pub, at a party, or on the web - remember to think before you speak/post. No-one likes or supports an abusive, illogical or weak debater. Cheers. Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 7 August 2011 12:10:42 PM
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Kerryanne,
Your disgust should be greater. If Lexi is correct in that there are now a 1000 staff in the Dept of CC, then the cost of running the show are at least double that quoted in the Tele article, which was written in 2010. Aside from the fiddling of figures by leading scientists there are continued little snippets of info coming up which cast doubt on the accuracy of the models used by the scientists, see below. http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603/pdf For those that do not want to read through this doc, this is the nuts and bolts of it. HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (July 26, 2011) — Data from NASA’s Terra satellite shows that when the climate warms, Earth’s atmosphere is apparently more efficient at releasing energy to space than models used to forecast climate change have been programmed to “believe.” In other words, NASA is saying that mother nature provides an Air conditioner for earth,that switches on when required. Who've thunk it! Lexi, For years it has been the government and the warmists like Gore and Flannery that have been running the scare campaign and now 'climategate' changed all that as most people no longer 'believe'. Flannery reckoned that sea levels were going to rise to cover 8 storey buildings and Brown blamed global warming on the Vic fires. I recall Rudd blaming a couple of hot days in Adelaide on global warming. He was going to claim, in Copenhagen, that "Australia was leading the world with his ETS". Glad Abbott put a stop to that. More and more people are becoming sceptical, and rightly so. Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 7 August 2011 12:26:19 PM
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Banjo,
Yes its very clear Lexi doesn't want to answer the questions put to her. I have been aware for a long time about the GW scam but tbo thought well the money will be needed to get us out of debt after another ALP budget. Kevin never liked the heat Banjo & you have seen him run when dumped with evidence on AWB but that is another story. ALP have paid lip service to the greens bill and nothing else. We have inquires atm being headed by people that ought to be answering to a royal commission & not all alp either . I suppose I should do the right thing & go back and dig up the evidence of the company that dreamed this up. Actually they sold some mining shares and said the future was in agriculture & carbon tax. I remember the old days with my dad when at least alp stood for poorer and working class family's. They seem to have lost it & bugger the oldies the people needing medication just to stay alive. I think Tony Abbott will be elected but at the end of the day Banjo its humane nature that will destroy this great country. I will say one thing Gillard with a better team may have been ok. Shes lacking the experience which is why she agreed to the carbon tax. We all know the greens were never going to do a deal with the libs. The tactics used as common practise by alp are indeed gutter tactics. As I said my disgust is absolute & anybody silly enough to believe all that garbage should not be excused just because there a few sheep short i the paddock. Cheers Banjo PS Thanks for that link earlier very handy Posted by Kerryanne, Sunday, 7 August 2011 1:03:01 PM
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That is all good stuff. I could not think of a better way of saving taxpayers money than by axing a useless Dept. Except by denying the illegal boat people permanent residence, thus taking away the reason for them to come here.
Frankly, I think the Opposition should just declare that climate change is a non-issue and leave it at that. If they spend time and money on it, that will also be waste and uncalled for.
When, and only when, it is proven that man is responsible for any change in the climate should we consider any action. There are many things we have no influence over and climate is most likely one. To think the little bit of CO2 we produce has an effect on climate is ridiculous.
Here is some info I came across, about the Dept of Climate Change. Happy to see it go.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/department-of-hot-air-costing-90-million/story-e6freuy9-1225859616207