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The Forum > General Discussion > I actually think that green power may be a good move.

I actually think that green power may be a good move.

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Hasbeen, that is my major problem with the whole thing at present. The concept of a UN Government... The UN at present is overpopulated with smaller and smaller Countries as Countries "Balkan-ise" (or subdivide) most of which are pushing agendas that have nothing to do with themselves, except for affecting their share of the various geo-political pie-fights, posturing to support whomever will pay them (like FIFA, with many representative nations being involved in both problems).

How this is going to fit in with the distinct dislike evinced by the Greens for foreign ownership of mining rights would be interesting to have explained. With the UN deciding things like who can dig holes where, I'd be very surprised if Australian's, let alone indigenous Australian's, could or would be any better off.

I mean, we only have to look at Timor Leste, despite the UN involvement (I'd say because of it) and despite the massive LNG/Oil reserves, the vast bulk of the indigenous population barely survives, while the small minority that mire themselves in the corruption live like kings. I'm really not interested in supporting any party that is so embarrassed at living in a developed, first world Nation (albeit one with some iniquity) that they would see the solution as being giving it all away, in order that we may seek absolution by becoming a third world nation ourselves (although, that WOULD stop the boats).
Posted by Custard, Thursday, 14 July 2011 9:10:43 PM
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Bob Brown said this... Bob Brown said that... it's true because I heard it on TV, but I can't remember when, what program, what channel, or even exactly what he said and/or the context.

But trust me, because I've shown myself to be so impartial and credible in the past.
Posted by morganzola, Thursday, 14 July 2011 9:14:02 PM
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Rehctub, responding to your criticism of the Greens:

<< gay marriage >>

Not something that worries me either way.

<< every mans right to hunt, fish and enjoy a camp fire. >>

Well, these activities should not be open slather. You should not be able to hunt in national parks, for example. You can fish in most national parks, which is a little dodgy, I reckon. We also need to regulate fishing according to fishing stocks, pressure on individual species, etc. And we should definitely not allow campfires where there is a risk of wildfire.

It is a matter of sensible regulation. The trouble is, with more and more pressure on our natural environment, regulations are progressively getting tighter, and understandably so. It is certainly not just the Greens that are doing or espousing this sort of thing.

<< They now wish to deny future generations, some of them greens, the right to enjoy what they enjoyed. >>

No, no, exactly the opposite. They wish to allow future generations to keep on enjoying a high quality of life.

<< I just hope they are given enough rope >>

Wow, we really see this very differently rehctub. I’d like to see the Greens develop a proper sustainability strategy and take over from the dinosaur-era grossly antisustainable liblabs.

My major criticism of them is that they haven't done this. They should have done it years ago. It makes no sense for them not to have this overall plan, especially regarding their hopeless lack of criticism of continuous-growth economics and rapid population growth.
Posted by Ludwig, Thursday, 14 July 2011 10:00:28 PM
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<< Bob Brown said this... Bob Brown said that... it's true because I heard it on TV, but I can't remember when, what program, what channel, or even exactly what he said and/or the context>>

I think this was the one Hasbeen was referring to:

“GREENS leader Bob Brown…This 'people's assembly' would be based on one person, one vote, one value and was being vigorously promoted in Europe and the United Nations, he said yesterday.”
http://www.theage.com.au/national/brown-advocates-for-one-world-parliament-20110629-1gqz1.html
Posted by SPQR, Thursday, 14 July 2011 10:09:29 PM
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<< I watched Brown, on an ABC news bulletin, promote one world government, with, & he stressed, one vote one value world wide. >>

Well if that be the case Hasbeen, I’d agree that our Mr Brown is a bit wonky and needs to be pulled sharply into line by his party.

So, was he saying this as a personal opinion or as Greens official ideology? It would be the former, surely.

Yeah, I’ve heard him say things too which have almost made me chuck my stubby at the TV set!
Posted by Ludwig, Thursday, 14 July 2011 10:10:28 PM
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Well, that answers my question. Thanks SPQR.

PHOOWEY to a one world parliament, Mr Brown!
Posted by Ludwig, Thursday, 14 July 2011 10:16:03 PM
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