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Posted by Belly, Friday, 8 July 2011 10:16:27 AM
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I see a former ALP Victorian Secretary, Steve Newnham, (Belly may know him) is saying there is a likelyhood of Labor and Libs agreeing to Put Greens last on their 'How to Vote' info.
All parties did this to stop One Nation getting up. Posted by Banjo, Friday, 8 July 2011 3:28:50 PM
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http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/greens-plan-to-shut-down-coal-industry-to-cost-australia-200000-jobs-36b-a-year-in-gdp/story-e6freqmx-1226086761615
Yes Banjo it is in two links already posted, do not know that bloke I do know the fool, who is in charge of electrical trades in that state very much far left dill. This link too will be rebutted,me insulted and ignored but truth will continue to be truth. Note while bile runs freely my point more Australians distrust the greens than vote for them is not going to be addressed. Posted by Belly, Friday, 8 July 2011 3:34:42 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/the-gradual-poisoning-of-our-democratic-system-20110705-1h0mg.html
I post yet another link in support of my views. Yesterday, I posted one from a person who had been a candidate for the Liberal party. He also had been an independent candidate. And an adviser to Pauline Hanson. I have ,for that sin. For my truly held view the electoral system in this country allowed unrepresentative groups to be elected. That they weld too much power. That that power is of a parasitic form. Can only be used by encroaching the will and wishes of people who had no intention they be able to do so. While I target/fear the greens,this thread highlights a number who gained seats and undue influence because of our system. I can not back away from my beliefs and am under a form of the Coventry thing. Consider reading these links in this thread, and agree or not tell me those posters not ignoring my version of the truth are my fears shared? Posted by Belly, Saturday, 9 July 2011 5:07:14 AM
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/commentary/boom-or-bust-for-alps-ideology/story-e6frgd0x-1226090999278
Yes I am not unaware this link is from a newspaper that in my view is tainted. It is my view ,firmly held, history may hold a great number of news papers this one included, owned by the people who gave us the news of the world guilty. Of deliberately manipulating public opinion and farming the truth poorly. But currently 55% to 45% my party is in the hands of voters who share a great deal of the views expressed here in this link. Only the most uncharitable reader will not see the views I express are shared by many. Of special note, people who joined me, in defending the center left here, now stand opposed to me,strongly, because I share views, and will continue, shared by big numbers of my country men and women. Posted by Belly, Saturday, 9 July 2011 5:26:02 AM
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As I lay this thread to rest I want to say a few things.
I will not be around in ten years but my words, these may be. We live in interesting times. On my birth we did not have satellites we communicated via under the sea hard line cables. Modern Communications have changed the world. The impacts are not fully understood, but the changes are massive and the speed to. Even if the Arab Spring turns out to be just a Sun beam on the way back to winter, I doubt that, we change faster than ever. England's Water Gate has just started to flower, it will grow and bloom like one of those giant stinking flowers we hear of from the jungle. Remind us from the first ever hand written pamphlet, the forerunner to news papers, power profit and the need to sell thoughts and ideas, even if untrue are the reasons we have media. And that always,in our present and past at least, lie miss true self interest drives us all, few confront their own vision in the mirror and know the truth in what they see. Communication will change our world, I hope, even believe, it will be for the better. NOW scandal, is just a very small seed it is about to grow in to a monster that will change our world. continued Posted by Belly, Sunday, 10 July 2011 7:31:20 AM
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It is your right, judge me, on my links here in this thread.
Morganzola, I lost too my liking you, see you know just as well as I do, and I thought much better from you, my charges are the ones you ignore, majority ones.
Run hide hold your breath stamp your feet, let those on the side revel in our falling out but know, I know, why you avoid my question.
The answer, the truth, the inevitability of both sides taking you on, hurts
Half on hour, less ago Christian Milne's fronted TV cameras, made an announcement about greens achievements, the ALP looks very weak as it is wagged by the radicals.