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Man versus machine. Are we losing the battle.

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Rechtub it is true, you have a fixation with workers wages/unions having to pay anyone.
And I think you are poorer for it.
Face facts, people on every side of politics too need to.
Capitalism is here to stay, tell me it is not and I demand what is the alternative and prove it.
Industrialization started with the invention of machines.
And changed the world, with city's becoming the center not country villages.
Machinery takes jobs lowers costs increases living standards, and makes new jobs.
Some cry crocodile tears about our manufacturing industry's shrinking, but buy cheaper over seas imports only.
To stop progress is not going to happen, will you go back to 1925 to dig ditches by hand?
I think old mate you should put your feet up sell out to a younger less fixed and stale person and watch you old business grow.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 1 July 2011 11:47:20 AM
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Dear Yabby,

It seems somehow a question of ethics to be squirreling money away at a frantic pace while your company and its shareholders are going down the gurgler - and being head of the corporation you have no moral obligation to anyone but yourself? To me that's totally wrong - and corrupt.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 1 July 2011 12:04:32 PM
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And the over-popluation is not going to bite us all in the ass......lol...again! Humans are the dumbest creatures ever. Gangs are taking over, unemployment back on the rise, religion marching thought reansoned thinking, and now the latest......" the world has done away with the bio-human, and replaced it with robots/machines that takes the place of you and I"......not too smart are we:)
By the middle of this century, 4 billion humans are only whats needed.....but the reality now is.....7 billion and growing by the minuet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v-spW3cMkE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKfVwcVwnro&feature=related

We may as well join organized crime, indicators tells that a career that field seem to hold more prosperity than the currant system working from a 9 to 5 lie our governments say is waiting for us.

MMMMM...what to make of all this?

New inventions have been displacing people from their jobs for millennia. That's not the problem. The real problem is that technological progress, especially at today's accelerating rate, outpaces the ability for our culture to integrate and adapt to those inventions. So I don't worry about a machine taking my job. At this rate, it's only a matter of time before that happens. I just worry that when it does happen, it won't be good news.

But at least for now, until all global currencies collapse and people (or computers) have to entirely re-imagine value exchange, get ready for more debates about why people should or shouldn't be doing perfectly mundane jobs that machines can do just as well or better. These next few recent innovations represent varying degrees of threat to human employment.

Top jobs today:)

Drug dealing
Freud
Corruption ( CEO,s )
Politics
Cocaine dealing
People smuggling
The bent side of the police force
and the list seems to be endless.

No! there's no problem in getting a job now days, is there:)

LEA
Posted by Quantumleap, Friday, 1 July 2011 12:10:53 PM
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rehctub, I would not be too concerned of machines taking over our jobs. As in the case of the motor car, it started from simple beginnings and today there are thosands employed in the manufacture, maintenance, operation, spare parts, the list is never ending.
So too with production machines, robotics, it will get more complicated and sophisticated which will require highly skilled workers to manufacture and maintain this equipment.
Yes, it is painful when one loses their job but the government provides means for and aid for re-training that's why we have technical colleges, and on the job training to give these people a future.
Posted by Aquarius, Friday, 1 July 2011 1:35:35 PM
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*and being head of the corporation you have no moral obligation to anyone but yourself? To me that's totally wrong - and corrupt.*

Lexi I agree. But its no different for lower rung workers, greed is
a human foible. That is why it is so difficult to find good
CEOs, they can easily send a company broke and shareholders lose
everything. Not so with unskilled production line workers.

CEOs are highly paid as showing great judgement is actually quite
a rare skill. Even many CEOs don't have it.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 1 July 2011 2:23:40 PM
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So let me get this strait. We as humans breed uncontrollably with the full knowledge that IA is going to be the norm? is that right?

Question! What the hell are we doing?

Are we tiring to join the dinosaurs?

Lets have a look at the car industrious evolution. Then BHP and its connings of the workers. 22.000 down to 6000 and the reasons are just the same:) so why are we increasing Australian numbers instead of decreasing?

I know this guy looks a little strange, but can you dismiss the points he out-lines?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw9fCnn4KyE&feature=related

LEAP
Posted by Quantumleap, Friday, 1 July 2011 10:41:59 PM
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