Can anyone explain how a carbon tax in Australia will save the planet ? Just because australians are so removed from the rest of the planet doesn't mean they're not part of it.

'Surely there's some hyperbole here?'

Nope. Only hyperbowl.

'It's interesting that nobody has put forward the suggestion that Gina Rinehart's opposition of a carbon tax could be linked to the source of her considerable wealth.'

Nobody has ever put forward the suggestion that birds can fly because they have wings either. The thing is Oto, the lefty Herald readers screamed blue muder at the mining adverts, considering it an affront to democracy, but are happy as larry about 'our Cate' putting forward her political beliefs. So surprising!

',she forces no one to follow her but has every right to do as she wishes.'
And as she does so, she INVITES critique. Why should she be immune from judgement?

'Cate stay, this thread seems to prop up a view free speech is only for some.'

See above.

'Australia's richest person doesn't want to pay more tax?'

And one of Australia's largest employers and investors.

Col,

My warmest welcome. It's like a ray of sunshine has been sent down from on high.

Suze,

'Maybe you are jealous of ... the fact she was asked to do the advert and not you :)'

True. I would love the money to make my own political advertisments. I'm sure many would, it's apposite to the topic. Inadvertantly, you have said something worthwhile.

pelican,

'In a free society anyone can put up an Ad. This one is no different from the mining industry ads and they used a celebrity too, or from the ACTU's Rights at Work Ads or from similar GetUp Ads.'

Is that free speach though, or freedom to interfere with the political process, and use third party proxy organisations to side-step responsibility for the content of advertising material. Is it a curtailment of free speach to ban political advertising? ie, you can say what you want, even use a megaphone on the back of a truck, just that you cant use mass media marketing campaigns.

Save us a lot of money during elections and ameliorate The Minister for Meriton, The Minster for Pubs NSW, the Minister for Tabacco, The Unions Bosses party.

its nothing to do with kate being rich or female
she is a hypocrite

guilt will do funny[sad]..things

blind us to even hearing the acusation
[im not infuring guilt..only quoting a sim-u-lie]

the big point today seems to be our
carbon dioxide..*creation..*
has hit an all time high*..*

considering the resession globally..[thats huge]
consider..the biggest new inDUSTry..is GOING GREEN
building a brandnew gren power system

take way that greening of INDUSTRY..
we wouldnt have the current..ALL TIME HIGH c02 being produced..

with industry producing them nice solar
and wind stuff..thats little supprising

thing is that we
collectivly...create too much

yet this tax/fix
is a blind instrument..

not targeting the big users
[in fact giving them..free solar cells...
and then extra income..on top..via a rebate...lol

?...how many
with free solar cells
have..*ACTUALLY used..*less power..in total..?

its the smoking scam..all over again
just like this attack on gamblers

guilt..[it works a treat]..
just like religion

if you pay for your 'indulgences'...
your not indulging...lol..guilty logic

unless your of the sort
who uses daytime power
from solar...
[which they with the free solar cells..[and overtly generouse rebaits..*arnt...!

YOUR solar/power...is on 'sold'
to electTRICK companies,..
and YOU still feed off.
.the coal power]..24/7...

[or else why pay you
for it...

[GET IT?]

you high and mighty
holier than thou kate blank/cheques of the world
still are using coal power...!..

[if your getting
*a feedback tarrif rate..!]

see..how proper solar
*would..*need to be..OFFLINE..*[off grid]..
would...*need to be..storing ALL..its own power..[on site]

*BUT IT DONT..!*!*!

[to wit..its a feel-good SCAM*]
so the big/users..get big offsets
..*WITHOUT REDUCING* THEIR over-use/abUSE..

ohhh soooo clever
the hide..of those
sharing collective guilt
then casting stones at smokers/or 'deniers'

talk about being in denial
lol

little wonder you want to leave
leave it..*for us paying for..*it all

replacing the infastructure..
WHILE PAYING YOU/cate/the arts
/greenies and the elites..*...a feed-in tarrif...TOO...!

lol

Houlley
It is freedom of speech no doubt, we can all make up our own minds on various issues.

Freedom of speech forms part of democracy and a better democracy would ensure accountability for election promises and even better some form of participatory democracy. The cost would be minimal if it tied in with the electoral cycle.

You must be misreading my post. I am not proposing to ban political advertising only that the taxpayer should not pay for it. If a group of people want to get together and raise money for an Ad that is not intefering with the political process. Afterall what is the political process? Politicians and people form governments and politicians work for us not the other way around.

I agree there are many people out there pushing a barrow about something but there always has been, it is now just more visible, media is faster and more accessible. Now we have blogging and opinion sites. People have always lobbied politicians. In times past, once a week publishing and radio was the extent of news. Ironically the news at this time was often meatier and more in-depth because reporters had time.

Are you really that stupid Quantum, or are you just backing the greenie ratbag catch call?

"Big business will pay for their damage", is just so childish. No one with even half a brain could not understand that every cent of this tax will be passed on to the poor bl00dy public.

Not only that, with billions of dollars of the tax collected from the public by big business, on behalf of government, you can bet they will find a way of profiting from it. They would probably have full approval from the green rabble to do so. After all the greens want to see us less well off, that saves "pollution" , don't you know.

With people like you around, I have to wonder how we ever managed to get out of the caves.

It is interesting to note that the Greenies that implore everyone else to tighten their belts are often the worst offenders. For example Al Gore has a massive house that uses 4-10 times the average energy, drives large gas guzzling vehicles.

The inner city late sipping greens are also noted for having the greatest proportion of SUVs and 4WD that never leave the tar.

Another case of do what I say, not what I do.