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A Whiff of corruption at the NBN.

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I wish to say I am sorry to every one who ever posted here in OLO.
I know better.
Should walk away, that song from Johny Cash is good advice.
I however respond to foolishness and some times publish foolishness myself.
I however can not change, my views yes, but me, no.
I know how to be diplomatic, understand how to be other than who I am but can not do it,this is me warts and all.
I must have been a shock, here my first hundreds of posts, miss spelled and well we all know about that.
Yet I had about 5.000 posts in other forums.
Shoulder to shoulder with very well educated folk here I post what I think.
But not some things I know.
Some insults come from those who know no better, some are constructed to make me act the fool.
I continue to do so, too often.
But charge some I squabble with of needless and offensive provocation.
But back to this thread.
NBN even I am concerned it may be over taken by new technology not long after it starts, one day it will be so.
I see no ties not even a single thread of spiders Webb to link corruption and Labor here.
I still wish I could benefit by it, my line will not support it ever.
Malcolm Turnbull, tasked with flogging this dead horse,to keep him out of the picture, said this last week.
If Abbott in power stopped the NBN Telstra would gain a multi billion dollar windfall.
That concerns me more,and I think like a great number SOME in the opposition do not believe a thing Abbott says.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 15 May 2011 5:33:51 AM
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Belly, you have no need to apologize. You have a right to your opinion and you always seem to give your opinion without resorting to nastiness, like some other posters do.

Keep on posting :)

The NBN is here to stay I would say. The Government has already spent way too much money to pull out of the project now.

We may as well get used to it and hope that what they promised will be delivered.

I see no point in trying to get rid of it now.
Posted by suzeonline, Sunday, 15 May 2011 12:08:16 PM
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Thanks Suzie on line I too think it should go ahead.
And that not too far in the future we will know it was worth while.
My problem is that to few homes to many hills to much cost I will not get it.
My satellite is not much good, once you stop paying the extended warranty you get dumped, no insurance no more warranty available.
But a tower has gone on a hill near me.
Radio will not work in my home, but 4 meters out side full strength.
So a day will come I will put an out door aerial up and get about half NBN speed a big improvement.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 15 May 2011 12:53:37 PM
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Dear Belly,

You're one of the most respected people on this forum. You have integrity. You try to see things from others point of view, and admit when you're wrong - which is no small thing. We all would miss you if you were to stop posting. We need more posters like you.

Anyway, here's something I came across on the web on the NBN - which for me at least puts things into their proper persepctive:

"The Libs think the NBN costs too much and we don't need it and that they can cobble together some yesterday technology to give us what they say we need. A "she'll be right" solution."

"This is beyond myopic. The NBN puts Australia in a position to be a real technological powerhouse. And don't get caught up thinking this is only about fast internet. The thing about the NBN is that it would be brilliant for things we haven't thought of yet."

"It'll give more people more access to well, more. We would be dragged at the speed of light away from being a broadband backwater. The NBN is the type of forward thinking in government that we see far too little of. It's brave, it's smart and it's necessary. Worrying about the cost is ridiculous. Australia has weathered the global financial crisis well, we're in a good position. We can afford the NBN, now, delaying, or scrapping it, we're going to have to do something like it later - and you know how much more it will cost then."

"The Sydney Opera House was a budgeting disaster, yet how much tourism cash and overseas attention has it brought Australia and more than that it was a flashing neon sign that Australia was a country to take note of in the modern world."

"The NBN is another such sign about Australia being forward thinking, and a people to be reckoned with."

I think the only question to ask is this: "Is Labor's NBN better technology than the jury-rigged solution proposed by the Liberal Party?" Anything else is irrelevant.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 15 May 2011 1:28:16 PM
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Lexi thank you, the thought of leaving has not crossed my mind of late.
My intention was to ask for forgiveness for counter punching.
I know better but just can not let some things go.
And frankly,I am concerned at some good posters, and many who log in but do not post, and the effects some posts have on us all.
Comments have been made about some, but just how many leave us because of such posters?
I fully,totally support GY and am pleased he actually is not intervening more.
But some, like school yard bully's grow if left unchallenged.
Never much good at the not getting involved in this stuff.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 15 May 2011 4:46:27 PM
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Dear Belly,

Someone once said, "You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarass the guilty." (I think it was the writer - Jessica Mitford).

I used to feel that was true - however, now I'm not so sure. Maybe I'm becoming more cycnical. As H.L. Mencken wrote:

"Don't overestimate the decency of the human race." So I guess all you can do is be true to yourself. Do what you think is right. Change what you can -( and can what you can't).

Take care,
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 15 May 2011 4:59:03 PM
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