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Gillard's adoption of the Pacific solution is an admission of ALP policy failure

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belly,
You might wake up from your dream soon. Why don't you implement Citizens Initiated Refenda while you are dreaming and give us democracy.

Back on issue.

It will not matter where the 'illegals' are processed, as long as we give them what they want they will keep coming.

To stop them coming we have to stop giving them permanent residence. Simple, after many years the previous government discovered this.

Remove the right for them to bring out their family mambers and they will stop trying to come here. This can be done by denying them PR or by altering the conditions of PR to exclude 'family reunion'

We allow over 90% in because we cannot establish there identity and nationality, so why not state those without bona fide passports and papers will never get PR.

This government has this problem because it placed ideology before pragmatism and thousands are now here and 200 have drowned. Good intentions do not always work.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:40:07 PM
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banjo...id papers..is a sore/point
with many frightend people
[see so called check points often seize their 'papers'

best we globally circumvent this issue
by using eye scans...and fingerprints

even dna samples...[by licking a stamp..]
and sealing it..onto their papers

they need only declare their problem's
and we figure it out for them

[if they arnt in the global id scam]
then we give them the id..stating what they say to be true

any liers will be returned to where they claim to come from
immediatly..default of promise...and get expulsed

but do thecright thing
you got papers..and we send you home as an honery/ozzie
till you embaris us..or violate the terms
of your joining the global citisenry

the eyes scan.fiongerprints dna
allways stoy on file..[no name changes..

not even with marrage]
think laterally...give them the least they need
at their own homeland...with ausie passport/protections

send em home
under sanctury/protections
to sort out their own lives
in their own home/land
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:54:20 PM
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I think Banjo any look, even from a blind man passing on a galloping horse,at my fantasy will see I basically agree with you.
I think the UN can get off at the next stop, that throwing papers away to make it harder to return them should bring a 5 year minimum prison term.
The to and frowing by Gillards lost team on this issue is,, well best not say.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 7 May 2011 5:49:25 PM
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now its Malaysia, next week India, following week Sth Africa and then lets get the Kiwis back! Unbelievable!
Posted by runner, Saturday, 7 May 2011 6:53:54 PM
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This is another nail in the coffin for Tony Abbott and the Liberal Party. This type of solution, whether it be good or bad, is what the majority of the Australian public want. Labor delivered. The Liberals have nowhere to go now on the issue other than to constantly whinge that Labor has ditched old policy and embraced new policy.

The mark of a functional government is the ability to change policy when needed. If a government can only dig it's heals in and refuse to accept change, like the old Liberal government in it's last term, then that government is dysfunctional and doomed.

Labor has shown that it can adopt change.

It's virtually guaranteed that they will win the next election, because they embrace that change.

And what does the Liberal party offer? Tony Abbott, that's what. And what a joke he's become.
Posted by Nhoj, Saturday, 7 May 2011 7:06:19 PM
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Dear Banjo,

You said "We allow over 90% in because we cannot establish there identity and nationality".

What rubbish!

Please funish any proof you have.
Posted by csteele, Saturday, 7 May 2011 7:32:00 PM
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