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Posted by Aime, Monday, 21 March 2011 2:32:56 PM
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What, all of them, Aime?
>>Put simply, Islamists don't live and let live. The slightest hint of an insult against their religion and they are forced by their own religion to kill you.<< If not, please re-phrase, this time with less obvious less fear-and-loathing. Or perhaps you do mean, all of them? Posted by Pericles, Monday, 21 March 2011 2:50:45 PM
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(quote)"I just wonder if the lady has the intestinal fortitude to tell Allah or Mohamed jokes." (With spelling correction) (unquote)
'Mohamed' is generally considered incorrect spelling of the Prophet's name. Mohammed or Mohammad is more correct but the accepted Islamic spelling in English is Muhammad. Muhammad ibn 'Abdullāh. In Arabic: محمد; Transliteration: Muḥammad; also spelled Muhammed or Mohammed.(from Wikipedia) So as the old adage says "Fools (or the illiterate) rush in etc. . . .". Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 21 March 2011 2:58:05 PM
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"Muhammad ibn 'Abdull etc.,..."
The paste from Wikipedia doesn't come across as it reads when viewed. Ah well!! Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 21 March 2011 3:17:11 PM
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Lexi
I have never made any secret of my loathing for Islam. But that is not the point. If Deveny is an atheist with the courage of her conviction she should be as ready to heap scorn on Islam as on Christianity or any other religion. Pericles I claimed to be probing boundaries. I never claimed this was an “innocent” undertaking whatever that may mean in this context. Austin Powerless and Is Mise My feelings exactly. Isn’t it interesting how so many people who boldly proclaim their atheism find all manner of rationalisations for refraining from attacking Islam while attacking those who do attack Islam? Now why do you suppose that is? At least Dawkins is not so muddleheaded. In this youtube clip he explains why he considers Islam to be a great evil. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhYus6TiGEE&feature=related For my part I see little danger from Islam. I think the threat of Muslim terrorism is overblown. The threat I do see lies in APPEASING Islam. Appeasing Islam takes many forms. These include: --Refraining from subjecting Islam to the same kind of critique, analysis, attack, contempt, satire and scorn (CAACSS) that we routinely heap on Christianity and other belief systems. --Attacking those who do venture to subject Islam to CAACCS --Conflating a loathing for Islam with racism and passing laws that in the end make it an offence to subject Islam to CAACSS. In short we are slowly imposing blasphemy laws on ourselves to appease Islam. Posted by stevenlmeyer, Monday, 21 March 2011 3:47:34 PM
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Steven,
What a load of bollocks. The comedian can choose whatever subject she wants to ridicule. Because she chooses not to take on Islam - doesn't mean she's scared to do so. You're simply making assumptions from your own narrow perspective. Give her the benefit of the doubt. Posted by Lexi, Monday, 21 March 2011 3:56:11 PM
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Of course she won't and of course "they" won't ("they" being any comedian of whatever calibre) and for one very simple reason. Look what happens to those who dare mock Islam. Remember Salman Rushdi? Not to mention that Danish cartoon! Deveny is well known, an easy target especially if she's thinking of travelling O/S, so there's no way she's going to purposely put her life at risk for the sake of making a joke. Better to reserve that for the Christians. They might get angry, but at least they don't run around waving AK47's and putting a fatwa on people. It was fortunate for Rushdi that his fatwa was eventually lifted.
Anybody in the public eye would think twice about insulting Islam. People are scared of Islamic fundamentalists and I'm almost certain that's what causes a lot of hatred towards people of Islamic faith in this country. Put simply, Islamists don't live and let live. The slightest hint of an insult against their religion and they are forced by their own religion to kill you. Thankfully, Christianity gave that nonsense away during the middle ages!