Philo,

My parents voted Liberal all of their lives - and so did I while I lived with them in my youth, I didn't know any better. Then I travelled, and got an education and started to think for myself. People change and evolve. - What one did in one's youth is one thing. As an adult - one begins to question things and as one's education and experience grows - one makes one's own decisions which path one is going to take. No one can be held responsible for the actions of one's family members, certainly not one's parents. One can be held responsible only for one's own actions. Personally get the distinct impression that - you're still grabbing at straws here. Anyway, let's
try going back to the topic of this thread shall we - I believe it's
supposed to be something to do with the funding of elections - not an attack on the Greens.

its as if no-one even botherd to watch sbs lastnight
the politics system is corrupted

if you think ''casino jack and the united states of money'' was just about jack and the indians...you missed the reason and teaching of the cutting wedge special

see the cake is despoiled
it would be nice if we could
individually point at a corrupt 'party'[as such]..

but this isnt the case...

its beyond party
beyond even lobby or the corruption of public service

to go looking for an innocent 'man'
is to miss the whole sceme has been corrupted

everything from banking to secuirities
insurance to regulation
law and justice policing and enforcement

we have the vile running vileness of busines
so where is the cure..

[..how can we fix this mess]

we need to restore politics
civil and death-duties
[those who plan and sceme cannot hold
their illgotten gain beyond the grave...

[this means no family trusts
no party politricks]

all corperate entities
[non living thus non dying]..need to 'die' as well

we need drop all personal taxation's
just live off corperate transaction taxes

and finantial services levies[insurance]
govt in affect underwriting/insuring everyone
within their juristiction]

not for proffit corperations]

of course honest money is a must
this is based on physical underwriting..the theoretical
ursury is a crime..

but why bother ..those who see no problem..dont listen to solution

soon it will be obvious to all
but by then more will have died for no good reason

in times of war we die ..in fear distrust discusst

when the hand of peace is offerd
[even if its intending to hurt you]
refusing to make peace..only prolongs war

seek you security to make peace
or reason to continue fraud war?

The fact is Lexie the Greens have been deceitful in their stand on election funding, appearing to be about environment, while their real agenda is about societal reformation under their control.

As I have stated previously their view is to eradicate people of religious faith from society. This the communists tried in the 1940s in Russia. Where is Russia today? - teaching faih in their schools as the eradication attempt was a failure, and destroyed and imprisoned thousands in their attempt. Similar with communist China and the imprisoned falin-gong movement who'se body parts are used for transplants. The Greens believe in abortion, population reduction, euthenasia etc all attitudes promoting death on a society.

Not convinced, Philo.

>>The fact is Lexie the Greens have been deceitful in their stand on election funding<<

If they gained power, I am sure that they would implement their policy on election funding, exactly as they propose.

If they did not, then - and only then - could you describe them as deceitful. Simple fact is, they are operating within the existing framework, just like every other Party. Why would they jeopardize their chance to actually implement their policies, by taking a holier-than-thou stance that disadvantages them and gets them nowhere?

As I pointed out to Is Mise, there are many other areas of their policy that they will continue to pursue - taxation, middle-class welfare etc. - while at the same time operating as citizens, along with the rest of us.

I have no time for Green policies, by the way. But this is a matter of simple logic, not policy.

Philo,

Pericles has put it much better than I could have. I have never voted for the Greens - however I have found that your arguments have to date - been illogical and therefore I cannot agree with them.

"The Greens are also in favour of raising the tax rate...

...on your logic, if they don't voluntarily pay a higher rate, they are being hypocritical.

The are also in favour of abolishing the 30% rebate on Private Health Insurance. Are they being hypocritical, to claim that rebate today?

You're not thinking straight on this one
.Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 19 March 2011 10:31:00 PM"

I am thinking straight on this and I'd expect those who advocate higher rates on anything to make voluntary donations equal to the higher rates to show that they are willing to lead by example, otherwise I'd consider them to be hypocritical.
The Power Companies offer a higher rate of payment for 'Green' electricity and I know people who pay this voluntary higher rate because they think that by so doing they are helping the planet.

These are people whose money is where their mouth is; I hasten to add that although I admire their principles I am not one with them on this.