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The Forum > General Discussion > The real facts about our $40 billion NBN plan.

The real facts about our $40 billion NBN plan.

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The 6" water line to the house does not help if the backbone is insufficient. The pilot project in Tasmania dropped to 12Mb at peak in spite of having fibre to the door.

With new wireless towers, there is no need to drop lower than 12Mb.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 1:09:23 PM
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Look, lets put this wireless v Fibre to bed once and for all.

The radio spectrum is too valuable to be wasted on the internet.
A certain amount of spectrum is made available for mobile internet for
those particular applications that need it.

That is where it should start and finish. The radio spectrum should not
be used for normal domestic and business internet usage.
Too many people think the internet has the highest priority.
It does not !

Now, fibre is a system that will probably never be replaced or become
redundant. It is a fundamental speed of light signalling method.
Only the terminal equipment will change over time, but the cable
itself is there forever.

It is not the size of Australia that is the cost problem.
Every town already has fibre or microwave links installed now.

However it is the cost of putting it into every house, every shop,
every business, in every building, in every factory, in every service
station, in every council depot in every street in every village
in every town in every city in Australia is where the monumental cost
will be expended.

Those outside the 2km from the exchange could have fibre run to their
area and have adsl2 on their copper line. This is the fibre to the
node that was the original proposal.
I believe that 12 Mbit is to be the normal service delivered to the
normal customer. Well at 2km from the exchange I get 10 Mbit on adsl2.

So I will not benefit one little iota from having the fibre laid into
my house.
The vast majority in towns and cities will be in that situation.

Most user are not aware that the delays and slower speeds they see
are at the remote server plus network congestion and switching delays.
They will be very disappointed to see the same delays on fibre.

All that trenching and cable pulling is not necessary and is a total
waste of money.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 1:31:50 PM
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What trenching are we talking about. Where ever there is a landline now the NBN will be in there also. New connections will require trenching.
The trenches are dug and cable laid at the same time, with the same machine. The time consuming bit is the joining of the fibre optic cable.
The majority of money spent will be in joins.
Posted by a597, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 4:06:52 PM
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Bazz,

Your analysis is very sad, and so technically wrong, however, it is a perception perpetrated by the NBN and Labor. Modern technology allows the same bandwidth to be shared by towers with overlapping areas, and the number of towers determines the number of connections in an area.

For remote areas where a fibre connection costs tens of thousands of dollars, a single tower can do this for a fraction of the cost.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 4:30:32 PM
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Change your provider.
Pericles,
You obviously are unaware of remote area phone & internet services. You can only choose between Telstra & nothing.
A little like passenger transport & cargo & mail. We used to have competition but the Qld Labor government made sure that people in remote area pay top rates to monopoly service providers.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 6:32:48 PM
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The NBN will improve competition ? If it's as good as they'd have us believe it'd be an outright monopoloy, wouldn't it ?
Posted by individual, Thursday, 3 March 2011 6:22:01 AM
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