Squeers did you not read the ABC report?

The gist of it is that the Lebanese Muslim Association is telling the Labor party that the community is upwardly mobile economically and that Labor may not be the automatic first choice as it was historically. They are telling Labor that they will have to do more for the electorate to win the vote in future. That is like the wife in the marriage telling the husband to shape up or ship out. The report also states that the electoral boundaries were redraw by Labor to encompass this community as they spread from suburb to suburb.

Squeers give up the "social engineering" definition; it's a descriptive sidebar, whatever your definition of "social engineering" is, so is mine, so we are agreed.

Finally Sqeers I told you not bring a racist slant into the discussion, as you have again with the bullscheise quip about Aussies being “vibrant with the seeds of change” again suggesting that I as opposed to you am an advocate of the white Australia policy.

sonofgloin,

there was no intended racist slight against you in my last post. However, I do not take instructions from you. And I comment as I see it, just as you do.
No I haven't read the article. Will try to find the time as I don't believe electoral boundaries were redrawn for that reason, but more likely to keep up with development.
The Muslims are just as entitled as anyone else to contribute to the evolution of Australian values, and to lobby on behalf of their community.

Sonofgloin said;
They are telling Labor that they will have to do more for the
electorate to win the vote in future. That is like the wife in the
marriage telling the husband to shape up or ship out.
unquote

Well that wife is not a moslem for sure.

Anyway Islam is not a race but a religion.

I truly find it intriguing.
Here in what is in my view our country's best forum, [we inhabit the basement]opinions are free.
And quite often in no way related to those the party we follow.
However consider this we know if government pays it is us who pays.
Labor has been flogged for? getting us in debt.
Now it is proposed"? we borrow go further in debt!
The alternatives
Well some of us could pay a levee, only some, at the high end every one ,middle all but not much.
We have costs cuts to do most of it,including the totally silly cash for clunkers scheme, lets sack the person who thought that up.
Australians on both sides of the fence surely want us back in the black, and want these people helped now?
Now cancel the NBN? While we are at it,do we fund little man Tony's baby bonus for the already rich? by levee cost cuts or borrowing blokes tell me?

Belly,

I have already "donated" a large chunk to the government in Capital gains, income tax and GST. Much of which they squandered.

I have donated to the flood relief, but am not happy, with a government that is more concerned with maintaining its spending on frivolous projects than helping those in need.

I read somewhere that if qld was not included in the NBN there will be plenty of money for reconstruction .