Remember Lady's the thread has been informative.
Two saw no reason to contribute any thing worth reading.
One appears not to be himself at night.
The other saw one side of the issue, one others know of and are even concerned about.
But no place in this thread was the subject just about unwanted pregnancy's.
Teen age pregnancy's can be planned.
And do bring well loved and looked after children.

To "we are unique", the churches do not support the needs of single mothers other than as an aid to the much greater support government provides. If the gov't wants to rally churches into the delivery of services to the offspring that I espoused in my last post, and churches want to join in, then great. I'm just against society paying women to be mothers, full stop. The paid parental leave idea is equally stupid, in my opinion.

It's time people took responsibility for themselves, their choices and their actions instead of laying back in the soft bosom of society. I made my choices and I'm living with them. To the poster who says I should look forward to having my retirement paid for by these offspring, I am also preparing for my own retirement through my own modest means, not expecting gov't to pick up the tab.

I'm support care for the needy, income redistribution in society and some level of middle-class welfare that necessarily accompanies this, but the balance is tipping to the point that we are losing the strength that built our nation. We must preserve the incentive for people to stand on their own two feet.

To "we are unique", the churches do not support the needs of single mothers other than as an aid to the much greater support government provides. Luciferase.

Centacare, other groups and Churches Luciferase.

Centacare has separately run their own counselling by hundreds of Psychologists for well over 30 years [teenage pregnancy counselling being just one of the many services they provide] across the Nation.

I could not give a hoot about debating whether government provide primary services vs Churches or Church organisations.

It is irrelevant to me.

The point I am making to Niccalee is that Centacare exists to support teenagers and many of these Counsellors make the road easier for those teenagers who may be struggling initially with "what their peers and/or society think".

Nicallee

you should do a wiki on Edward Bernays and how he changed public opinion on various things.

If you look around..his methods are being used to try to change public opinion on a lot today.. gay marriage being one..and perhaps earlier in our recent history it might have been teen pregnancy.

cheers

Do you agree with gay marriage Boazy?

Gay Marriage ? No Belly mate.. I absolutely reject it.

I have 'conservative' genes :) ie.. I am genetically challenged according to the Left.

HISTORY. Belly, gay marriage is just one of a number of 'self actualizing' outcomes of the EST movement. (Werner Erhard)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f17cu-TS-Tk&feature=related

Here is how it all happened

Freud... Student named Reich... started alternative school of human understanding (opposite of freud) which spawned the EST movement.

EST spawned the hippie movement and modern "me me me" generation.