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The Greens pay the price for their arrogance.
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Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 1:21:05 PM
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Belly,
This time I concur. While I believe that the greens are an indulgence that Australia can't afford, the name calling / flaming is never called for. Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 1:39:45 PM
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The Greens pay the price for their arrogance. Is that a fact:)
ALGOREisRICH.........Read it and weep.lol http://tinyurl.com/25bzzuv I haven't read much on this thread.....except for gore's little rant. BLUE Posted by Deep-Blue, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 4:53:27 AM
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Actually deep blue, your link confirms what I was saying.
To Quote from the link: "LABOR faces a backlash in key seats as support for the Greens soars for this week's state election......while the Greens are set to win 18 per cent of the primary vote in the electorates" Yet they got less than 11%. The greens were riding a wave and it collapsed. Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 7:00:31 AM
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The Greens still increased their vote from the last election. This time under fire rather than picking up a large preference vote because no one takes them seriously. Yes it is a message to them that they must perform in the Senate and in Tasmania. But considering there has to this point been no meltdown in Tasmania and they are yet to take their position in the new senate let's not jump the gun. Should they fail in their new role i am sure they will be sacrificed as the democrats were.
If this is to be the case, where does that leave Australia. In a pretty poor state. There is always much complaining about monopolies and duopolies in Australia and the way these deprive us of better industry performance and in the end rip us off. This is exactly what we will have. Little to no choice about the way we want our society to develop. Silence in parlement when strong debate is needed. Look at the current situation, changes were sort and received by the independents but yet the majors don't take that seriously. The debate on Afganistan was a joke reflecting the contempt the majors have for the community. If the current situation fails it should be a sign to the electorate that we need to widen the gap between the seats the majors hold and majority government to put more pressure on them to bend. Just because we say that the majority of voters want a certain thing does not make it right. You can put 5000 people in a commune and tell them the same things every day and sooner or latter most will agree, it is diversity that causes contemplation and reflection on what is needed. The old saying stands, we must decide between what is easy and what is right. Posted by nairbe, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:40:02 PM
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Ah yes, indeed *BigAl* is quite correct. Slime also, is a beautiful thing, and has its place in the overall world system, defined and refined by the trials and tribulations of millenia of existence.
And what of *Kermit* praytell, who has fallen by the way in some parts, as rising, localised to their environ temperatures have left them defenceless against the onslaught of skin funghis. Hmmm ... Did anyone else see *David Attenborough* last night? I was !PLEASED! to note that some of the only remaining pristine and unblemished by the sometimes ghoulish hand of Humanity ocean waters in the world are coastlines in remote *BlakFella Australia* .. And whilst I agree there are good lessons for the *Greens* in their recent electoral experiences, I think that ultimately that could work to their advantage, as too sudden an ascension in material power could be damaging. Being Human and imperfect, the Greens also face the challenges of dealing with problems like that of attracting Self interested career professionals. *Chancellor PalpaTine* " ... All those who gain power are afraid to lose it. ... " So let them be sublimated in the "Fires of Political Creation" a whiles longer until they have fully costed and tested by public scrutiny relocation solutions for those individuals and families who may need to be uprooted in the interests of the environment or otherwise in the future. .. So, in some ways, the *National/Liberal* party have done the *Greens* a favor, and as some of you are aware, I have long advocated for greater, shall I say, collaboration between the *Greens* & the *National Liberal Party* .. P.S. Looks like there's gonna be plenty of crays on the table for Chrissy & New Year! Ho Ho Ho from Beijing. Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:40:39 PM
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Greens care not my cup of tea, but scum?
Can we must we say things like that.
My only contribution to this thread.
And only because you claim to be Christian, judge not least you be judged.
Leave you too it, but congrats to conservatives a good win and I support main stream party's isolating the greens.
But not by gutter talk.
Belly