individual.

Even thou I don't smoke or drink coffee, is easy to see that these are some of the little luxuries that people enjoy all over the world. The same little luxuries I also enjoy with the one's you've out-lined. I mean to be a full greeny one must live in the wilderness with NO connections with any type of technology what so ever. However, understanding the importance's of keeping the environmental life supports systems in a healthy check, is by no means an object of foul thinking.

Committing on such actions is by all concepts, something all should be keeping in the fore-front of commonsense since "all" need this small blue-green planet for own survival.

So do I care? yes.

Why don't you?

The one species that I admire the most will no doubt run its course, so the burning the candles is in fact the living, and with all we know about what this mammal can do, its sometimes hard to see what a waster this animal is and the blatant disrespect of the very thing that sustains it. Its difficult to define where intelligence starts and stupidity ends.

Anyway...... enjoy your day with your Smoko & coffee:)

"I would be very interested if someone could produce the values of the footprint of the Copenhagen conference.

Indy, Iam sure what ever happens, it will be in the best interests of mankind..........and only mankind:)

Have a great day.

BLUE

Sorry blue, I don't smoke, or drink alcohol, although a bit of coffee does pass my lips.

I did smoke, if you could call it that, while I was doing my physics. In the days before computers for students, I would often have half a dozen books, & 2 or 3 cigarettes going simultaneously. Mostly they burned away unnoticed in an ashtray, the cigarettes that is, but the act of lighting them must have helped. When I stopped the heavy study at night I just stopped buying them. You could not have even called it "giving up".

I spent many years in some rather remote areas, using no more than 4,5Kg of LPG, [gas] 12 litres of petrol a month, so I've awarded myself some brownie points to spend now.

I have found the most anti tobacco people do allow themselves some little vice, & pot appears the vice of choice for them. I do object to to their holier than thou attitude, when aimed at poor people who are hooked on tobacco, a legal product.

I have also noticed that it is these same people who approve of injecting rooms, & Brisbane council buses, the latter of which I'm sure cause more lung disease than all the tobacco on earth.

I get so sick of urban greenies, with their total misunderstanding of anything but the concrete jungle. In some ways I would like to show them some of the world, but I could never stomach their misguided moralising long enough to do so.

it will be in the best interests of mankind..
Deep blue,
Yeah, but will it work ? What these statistics don't tell us is that the frivolities of the wealthy & war exercises i.e., bombing practice, big planes flying non-stop, tanks, trucks, private jets, huge private yachts, fantastic mansions, the list goes on, are the cause of global warming. Not a few million little cars tearing along. Let's have some perspective here. Who's leaving the bigger carbon footprints ? Who is costing the company or Govt Dept. more ? The CEO's & the top bureaucrats who sanction all of the aforementioned. The bloke having a smoke for ten minutes probably does more good than harm.

"Sorry blue, I don't smoke, or drink alcohol, although a bit of coffee does pass my lips."

Well good for you mate. At least you'll live longer than Indy's philosophy:)

Indy.

"The bloke having a smoke for ten minutes probably does more good than harm."

Ok, if that's what you think, I wont disagree with you.

Isn't it wonderful how people are seeing the wrongs of their ways.

BLUE

I'm with OUG and Individual.

The campaign against smokers is pure politically correct controlling drivel.

Humans since their existence have always had smoking ceremonies (for purification). It is a human trait/ritual. And since human existence, it has only been complained about for what is it now, the past 20/25 years. It is a new controlling ideology. An excuse for all the industrial pollutants so individuals with their smoking are a much easier target.

Some German scientists have confirmed from their research that smoking actually deters mental illnesses such as Dementia and Alzheimer's for a start. After hearing this in Berlin over 2 years ago, I later heard it confirmed by one of the founders of Google. This new light on smoking effects (pardon the pun) will never be exposed, will it? No chance because of the collective Controlling BullSiters.

And Individual is right, smoking is a break from work tedium (and stress). A mental health break at that.

Now they want to ban (or already have) siesta breaks which is has been proven to be beneficial to workers. It is all about corporate greed and control, and puritanism.

As for Pot smokers - why do we not hear of the effects marijuana has on mental illness such as Schizophronia. This happened to a nephew who now has to be on medication for the rest of his life. He lost his happy healthy youth. And he only smoked Pot once or twice. I gave up years ago because of what it was doing to me psychologically.

Alcohol is much more fun.

Also, many Schizophroenics smoke tobacco - because it gives temporary mental balance.

Also agree with OUG about the gluttonous fat people who dent the health system and hog space in the environment. They should take up smoking!

Yes, of course I smoke, but only rollies because of chemicals in commercial cigarettes. And am considered more or less an outcast, and people are continuously surprised and shocked when they find out that I am a smoker.

This is another BIG FAT LIE from the anti-smoking campaigners and fanatical do-gooders.

Sorry, I missed Hasbeen who I also agree with.