Belly.

I always love it when I hit a nerve. See how they have deleted the information:O

I look forward also to more discussions on the matter.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abs.gov.au%2Fausstats%2Fabs%40.nsf%2FLookup%2Fby%2520Subject%2F1370.0~2010~Chapter~Long-term%2520unemployment%2520(4.3.2.1)&rct=j&q=long%20term%20unemployment%20rate%20australia&ei=GgvfTOODJ4qgvgOKk7n2Dg&usg=AFQjCNEeXFxACsDSJp6gfTC9Yw_9tTMT7w&cad=rja

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abs.gov.au%2Fausstats%2Fabs%40.nsf%2Ffeaturearticlesbytitle%2F8C560715E24051D7CA2570FF001A1799%3FOpenDocument&rct=j&q=long%20term%20unemployment%20rate%20australia&ei=GgvfTOODJ4qgvgOKk7n2Dg&usg=AFQjCNGk879Se2Br-qT14AGPImH7PzfomA&cad=rja

And the long term unemployed will fill the jails nicely.

See! they have the situation in hand.

I guess all is well:)

Have a great day.

BLUE

Common Belly. You say you only briefly flirted with communism, and then say “we”, & I suppose by that you mean government, should provide a job for everyone. Just how communistic can you get, & not be one.

Next post you are bitching about the casualisation of the work force, & blame business. Mate, put the blame where it belongs, right at the feet of your unions, particularly the left wing ones, & a Labor government.

It was they that made it impossible to get rid of any no-hoppers that you found you had employed. It was this that made people decide it was just not worth expanding your business, & workforce, as it cost a fortune to step back if the expansion was not economically viable.

I do not find it equitable that you can train someone for years, & once competent they can leave at a weeks notice. On the other hand, if you find after months of training, someone is just not up to the job, an employer is stuck with them.

If your business shrinks through no fault of your own, [often government], you have to pay a fortune to get rid of people you can no longer gainfully employ.

Belly, I was always slow to sack anyone. I had only sacked 2 people in my life until this rubbish started. After that I got rid of quite a few, before the end of the 3 months trial, as I could not afford to keep anyone I was not sure I could make useful. Most of these could probably have made it, but I could no longer take that chance.

Unintended consequences are murder, aren’t they?

Hasbeen you let the heat show in your posts.
Anger heat and a distaste for me and my background.
Fair enough bloke, I will not bother you with my opinion of you.
Not even in real life, you plucked events from your life your reality and heaved them at me.
OK no idea about those you sacked never agreed with unfair dismissal, unless it truly was unfair.
You launch in to a slander hasbeen, a stone made of feathers hurled at me.
Remember solidarity? that union in Poland that helped in the death of communism, there are my hero's.
Communism is evil, you see my view time and again yet hurl your rocks .
It is a weakness in you that lets you manufacture things like that against me.
You and I pay for social welfare you seem to find my view we should do it better a problem.
Hasbeen you dig a trench, one you put your self in ,but I cannot understand any one who needs to target others so badly that you make up issues that do not exist.
Your post stands out in this thread like a neon light in a black out what is it about?

There is no simple solution. Get the unemployed to plant trees, and then planting trees is a worthless profession. Demoralising people into submission will only work on those already downtrodden. All the leeches that work at those scungey unemployment agencies (they dont find any jobs for people) would simply have to join those on the scummy side of the counter, which would affect the jobless figures, which makes those in charge appear ineffective.

A single welfare payment may have merit, but not according to those at the top of the welfare scrapheap i.e. disability support pensioners, aged pensioners, single mothers...

Personally, I would suggest taking a look at creating genuine opportunities and starting new enterprises (which means scrapping the highly corrupt and ineffective NEIS scheme). Unfortunately, it is much better political mileage to take a kick at the unemployed and blame them for their own predicament. That and giving aged pensioners a small raise every so often to keep them happy.

Pat the Bogan I have read a lot of your posts, get the feeling you have battled at times and life may have been hard.
But I can not see your point, there are bludgers out there on welfare, there are those who have lost all self image and FEAR looking for a job.
We once gave local and state government jobs to such as them.
Even in Queensland once farmers got that work, to help in times of drought or flood.
Basically I think we should own the industry we create for these folk.
Pay fair wages and trees? first mission plant two maybe four for every one we harvest.
A kid of 19 left school at 15, his dad never worked a day, he has not yet, he gets carers pension for his grand mum but lives away from her, we can do better mate.
Soon Labor or Liberal will confront welfare, much in the style of Britain's plan,we have to understand it has to be modernized.

Pat-the.

"There is no simple solution. Get the unemployed to plant trees, and then planting trees is a worthless profession."

Or maybe bogone as not being-see what has transpired.

240 times 2. for the tree planting and he has also been thinking of the future. Well I don't know you Bloke...but some would think thats not bad.

What if Iam one..............? Are you going to take that away from me?

Your probably one of those that have more than they need!

Like I said before..........mate!........its sometimes a crap go.......but don't you ever take whats not yours.

BLUE

And still dont know who I am:)