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Costs of contracting out

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Belly, I certainly believe you.

I had alot to do with Qantas cargo, over many years. The white
shirts would sit upstairs, in their own little world. They had
no association with the blue collars, who I became very friendly
with. They even got me through a strike one day, with special
dispensation. They were ok, but management totally lacked people
skills. So there was real animosity between the two, for no other
reason then bad management.

If those managers had gotten off their butts occasionaly, had a beer
with the boys and treated them differently, that whole place could
have run far more efficiently.

But those managers had no need to do anything. They were running
a virtual monopoly, their salaries were assured, us consumers
were paying them, as there was no other choice.

I would have loved to reorganise that place, but in all the years
that I was going there, nobody ever bothered.

That is why I make my point. With no checks and balances, people
become fat, lazy and complacent. The notion that those who work
for govt, do it for the good of the people, is totally flawed.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 8 November 2010 9:04:57 PM
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One of the fat cats has found me here in this thread, I noted his presents some time ago, and my comments have bought about a return.
Try these brand new road, bypassing a country town,name of that town means fig,as in fig tree.
RTA sets out a plan months in advance, grows figs plants them at the highway entrance to? that town.
Very nice not cheap but well done.
New time waster,sorry Lady on a mission, sends a rough nut team leader this note, remove the Ferrel fig trees!
I looked at the note wrote on it over my dead body ,responsive active foremen saw it,rang said never saw that letter did we?
Trees look good.
Do we talk about 15 months to put mirrors on a machine, after driver said I am frightened to drive it?
Consultant higher ed at what cost to find out what materials was used in a road built by and recorded by the DMR/RTA?
Consultant got ex grader driver to tell them what quarries bought in the fill, nothing else.
I Do not understand, never will, the idea public servants have to run such enterprises, in fact they do, in to the ground.
Given the task, ANY road building contractor could use current out door staff and make it work.
Given a chance current out door staff without the dead hand of management could do it almost over night.
Why are we afraid to try?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 5:03:12 AM
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I lead with my heart in this thread.
Truly made it my own.
I will end it with why I did so.
The storys are true.
In that first year of EB negotiations a survey of all workers, me among them, found management was not believed trusted or respected, it was understated.
Some of those workers gave it every thing they had, some worked past meal breaks even not stopping all day, to get it done.
22 years working there every day wanting to do it better.
I won leadership awards, but only if what I was saying was agreed with by the people in charge.
Say something they did not like?
My return as a union official was interesting, the man, single manager, I trusted welcomed me with praise.
The dead unresponsive hand of the public service types briefly put down the coffee cups to defame me.
Industrial Relations, work out comes, contracting out, public servants being involved in these things, will be reviewed.
We can do better.
We Can find new managers and make public endeavors work.
Put the shovel leaner's out of your mind, try to see what I saw and see, men who could work with any of us, and do well, who are not given the chance.
Right now, my ex workmates, ex union members are back to day one.
That poll would not be any different if done now.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 5:30:53 AM
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About twelve months ago I returned to the RTA.
It became one of my duty's to look after members there.
I found a workforce unhappy, clearly they had issues with my union.
They wanted to express those issues but a boss said lets not! my boss!
I got into fixing it, but found management remote from its workers.
15 years of under payments to some workers in the worst area, 15 years a great deal of money up to 6 hours pay for every week.
If fought my battles ,often had to be rude to be heard.
RTA workers regained trust in me and my Union.
Yet that is why I left a man unaware of the rights, thoughts, ideals of my ex workmates, current one's for that, informed me I was to control myself in the fight for honesty.
No not me, a unionist should never start a fight, never be needlessly rude or provocative.
He/She however must not ever fly the white flag if their case is just.
We are seeing story about casual workers in the computer/camera factory.
Seen via my eyes one district of the NSW RTA is worse.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 5:43:36 AM
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Enjoy your week Belly.

Excellent issues needing to be addressed.
Posted by we are unique, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 10:32:07 PM
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We are unique I am having a good week, every week.
My move removed me from my life's work but not life.
Without the stress I am 7kgs lighter and going down.
My garden is glowing ,I am too.
I pass the baton, but never except so much public money in the hands of blind spend thrifts who return so little of value.
Who have no need to give better results,and who put their faults and waste at the feet of workers .
And get away with it.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 11 November 2010 4:41:22 AM
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