isnt it live and let die
or lets let them kill themselves
or put them to sleep with euthinasia

mankind is not perfect...

and religeons expecially have taken the blue pill..[or is it the red-pill]...i dont watch movies...

maybe they have taken..the 5 th..[ammendment]
but maybe that only applies in usa

what do you feel the next step..[after banning them]..will be?
will they go underground...AGAIN...

come back as the new-age..[neo-rage..movment..[again?]
get yet more indoctrinated..by those peers..saints
not knowing god...[let alone...doing that jesus did..

and said..they must do...ie serve..gods good...
have good fruits..[love god..love neighbour]

there has been those who listen to words..the same as you now voice
[and what has been..the end product?]...born again sinners?

show me..where you were told..this is heaven?

[the bible clearly reveals this is satans realm]..live by the flesh...or reject sin...and live for the holy spirit

im not sure what your thinking...in fact im sure your reacting...not thinking it through...

what you want...the latest purge..
burn all those thinking of god?

make getting together..and proving a jail offence
or give athiests free reign..thinking there is no karmic balance

to do as you suggest..needs re-writing
the whole premise..by which we are governed
that underpins..our law and justice systems

shall those serving swear..to tell the truth
or the queen..swear to be higher ranking
because her blood is true-blue?

debating is futile..if you got no plan..[man]

your wish-list..is revenge on abuse..suffered..
which you blame on parents..ONLY..TRYING to do..their best

or blame their belief system...
you now think..them to be..hypocrits about

[ok i dont know...but also clearly...
you dont know what your fighting
your athiest[or agnostic]..
thus reject the CON-cept..of god

you dont really know if he is good...or vile
claim you sought him..but in reality only doudt the works of those [who also dont know him]..[as their works/deeds reveal]

instead of attacking god direct..
you attack the mess-anger..cause you hate..{fear}..their mess-age

well they TOO..got that wrong
two wrongs dont make it right

love good
love neighbour
its easy if we try
no hell below us...abouve us..

only the answer..
as to why..

all this forum has is complaints, complaints and more complaints. If you are not happy, change it! move out of civilization. Live in a jungle, live on an island. Live alone without any society! my god! how about complaining about yourselves for once? Complain about you imperfectness of acceptance of others. I am not perfect. I do many things wrong. But i try not to judge others because I believe in life, we decide how we want to live, not get dictated by everyone else how to live it.

A lot of Australians have no respect for another culture, religion, believes because they can't be bothered. They go to bali, behaved like "yappies" i think is the word. They treat the island with no respect, the people with no respect and behave like they are the locals there and not the visitor. And you wonder why they do not like Australians? How I know? i have seen so many times, and I've talked to them about it. Thanks to all this, now they threat all Caucasians without any respect, because they need the money. This is not everywhere in bali and every australian. just the typical ones.

I disagree with your claim Jinny.

Many of the Balinese people have been indebted to the Australian people both as tourists and government visitors to their country's cities and villages for many years.

Australians have supported the Indonesian peoples' survival and every day life, in addition to fundraising and government support from Australian taxpayers.

If the word you hear from some Indonesians is correct, these few people may just be commenting about young Australian tourists visiting on their one off holidays.

Not the Australians that visit Indonesia on a regular basis over many years, who I have mixed with through work, social and volunteering circles for well over 30 years of my life.

How ironic that you start a post complaining about Australians with the complaint that the people in this forum complain too much!

I, for one, try very hard to see the positive side of things. I avoid complaining and, in this thread, presented my (perhaps naive) view that living and letting live is possible and even a reality. You disagreed in what reads very much like a complaint. You complained in your own thread about Globalisation and Evolution that "some like to use bombastic words in forums, to show how intelligent and well educated they are" - somewhat unfairly, I thought at the time. Please, jinny - try to understand that people express their opinions (too negatively, at times) in a forum aptly attached to the On Line Opinion site.

Why do you single out Australians as having no respect for other cultures? In my experience, Australians are more accepting and even more curious about other cultures than people I have met in Africa, Europe and parts of the South Pacific. Of course, there are many Australians whose behaviour make me seriously consider travelling with a different passport, but they have always been the minority.

I have never been to Bali so can't comment on the situation there, but I suspect that locals pandering to the hedonistic tourists (much as we pander to, or used to pander to the Japanese in places like Cairns and the Gold Coast) are as much to blame for what I have been told is a disgraceful and often disrespectful tourist economy. Cut the Australians out of Bali, or tell them they can't behave in ways they have been allowed (or encouraged) to in the past, and what impact would this have on the local economy? I'm sure it would be bliss at first, but how long would it be before the economic slump really hit home?

In tourist meccas like Bali, Ibiza, Corfu, Majorca, Airlie Beach, the Gold Coast, we see live and let live in hyperdrive - perhaps 'live and encourage to live' [read: get wasted] is a more appropriate phrase.

we are unique & Otokonoko, : You are both right. Sometimes I just find it hard to not think about the negative. When I posted last night I was very emotional and I apologize for writing about Australians that way. It is very unfair and judgemental of me to have done that. I wish I could take it back.

I try not to complaint to much. Bad habit of humans.. it has grown on me since I was a kid having parents that complained and argued about everything under the sun. I am still trying to change that about me.

There are a lot of things I love to see here. How some good samaritans can help total strangers. How friendly they are, and yes, how accepting they are. It's just my personal decisions I made which I take responsibility for, has clouded my views at times. Frustration takes over and then I go off venting. Sorry.

I just trust people too easily. At least I used to. Now I only trust myself. Which is the way I will keep it for the mean time.

I am sorry if I upset anyone by the c**p i write here. I really learn a lot from this forum when I choose to spend time here. Thank you so much, wishing everyone a blessed day :)

Dear jinny,

I thank you very much since you made me feel good by your post.

I had a mother who used to complain ad nauseam. She was not feeling well so we called a doctor. At the door way on his way out he had a few words with me. He told me my mother would be ok and just had indigestion. I went up to my mother's room, and she told me she was thankful that her heart attack had not killed her.

"But, mother, the doctor said you had indigestion."

"What does he know?"

She would never admit that she was wrong or ever apologise for anything.

Glad you are not like that.