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Situation with human rights in Queensland requires attention and appropriate intervention

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It occurs to me that these are exactly the kind of "human rights" issues that signally fail to make any case for "human rights" at all.

In that they seem perfectly adequately covered by existing laws.

Feeling aggrieved that i) the wrong verdict was delivered, or ii) information was improperly withheld or iii) evidence may have been fabricated is perfectly understandable, and to the extent that it is true, perfectly justifiable.

But I am unable to see how the existence of "human rights law" is going to change the situation. In fact, it is easy to see, just from the examples here, that any such legislation would be most likely invoked endlessly, whenever a perceived injustice were to occur under existing criminal law.

No wonder lawyers are, as a profession, barracking for it. They all want to be as rich as Cherie Blair.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 12:17:23 PM
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Well, I did some more digging and found out a bit more about this case. I take it from your shared name and the fact that your comments appear in all sorts of places relating to Mr Berg that you are a concerned relative? What you are going through must be tough (if my assumption is, in fact, correct). Shattering, even.

That said, when patients' health appears to have been compromised, I think it is imperative that they are informed. It makes interesting reading:
http://www.qphci.qld.gov.au/pdf/BHCI_Exhibit234-01.pdf
http://www.qphci.qld.gov.au/qphci_pdf/QPHCI_Exhibit336-62.pdf
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/05/16/53725_news.html

Now, I certainly do not credit the Townsville Bulletin with any journalistic integrity but, if he faces 41 charges resulting from a 4-year investigation, it does suggest that he has left a bit of a mess that needs cleaning up. As the matter is not yet finalised, I shall use the phrase "alleged victims" - but his alleged crimes are hardly victimless.

But, back to the point, I can't find any evidence of police misconduct stemming from any source other than you. Have you been to the media? Why haven't they attended to your arguments? Either your claims of corruption and a cover-up are true (and the cover-up has been done very well) or there is simply no justification for your claims.
Posted by Otokonoko, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 8:41:01 PM
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We cannot publicly discuss Vincent Berg’s criminal case without risking to be accused of contempt of the court.
Nevertheless, in response to relevant media publications, I can emphasize that majority of Vincent Berg’s charges is ‘a chain’ of allegations entirely built on a single allegation that his medical credentials are false. Such misinformation derived from Russian officials. Given that Australian authorities recognised Vincent Berg as a political refugee and granted him domestic protection, it is very reasonable to doubt that such an allegation is legally reliable and does not aim to harm Vincent Berg. None of the allegations of grievous bodily harm satisfy legal definition of this criminal offence given by Queensland Criminal Code Act 1899, and none of them is based on any medical evidence. These baseless criminal charges clearly present a case of police abusing its authority.
Most importantly, the credibility of Vincent Berg’s criminal charges is crucially undermined by evidence allowing to allege that charging police officers committed a number of criminal offences and official misconduct while handling Vincent Berg’s case. I am in possession of letters from the courts revealing that there exists no legal obstacle for an immediate commencement of required criminal investigation. Despite advice from the courts, Queensland authorities refuse to investigate alleged police crimes and misconduct associated with Vincent Berg’s criminal case claiming that it cannot be done before the conclusion of Vincent Berg’s case in the courts.
Such an approach clearly violates Vincent Berg’s human right for the same treatment before the law, which enjoy the police officers who charged him. Equality of all persons before the law is a fundamental principle of democracy, and any police officer must be accountable to the law in the same manner and to the same extent as any other persons.
Posted by Andreas Berg', Thursday, 14 October 2010 8:50:50 AM
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This government and all those that preceded it can stick their "sorry" apology where the sun don't shine.

Get beaten to death for being drunk or die 20 years earlier than you fellow non indigenous citizen, it is all platitudes. Enquire this or enquire that, nothing will change until the government implements an indigenous education program that strives to place 20% of indigenous kids in university trained fields. This support has to be whole scholastic life and the social framework supporting the youth through those years must also be supported. For any who may say we give them too much support as it is, look at the indigenous mortality rate, it is third world for kids under five, and sadly things do not get better if you reach six.
Posted by sonofgloin, Thursday, 14 October 2010 11:12:29 AM
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There you go, sonofgloin. I think you are addressing something much closer to a real human rights issue. While I doubt we would agree on the means needed to address this inequity, at least you have raised an issue that represents widespread, systemic injustice, either through discrimination or through negligence.
Posted by Otokonoko, Thursday, 14 October 2010 6:01:28 PM
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To get the indig; kids into uni first you have to get them to go to school. In some places this is a tough ask.
Uni for these kids is ideal it gets them away from their uneducated elders, who know nothing but coltural tradition.
Posted by 579, Thursday, 14 October 2010 7:28:17 PM
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