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Oakeshott's speech too long? come off it!
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Posted by Belly, Friday, 10 September 2010 2:55:03 AM
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Foxy, AP, Cornflower, et al,
Having listened to the speech, it was 17 minutes of trying justify his decision. In doing so he completely neglected to compare the offers from the coalition and Labor. If he had done so, the near equality of the two packages would have left his decision basically down to continuing his role in the spotlight as the final arbiter of Labor's legislation, and a boost to his parliamentary pension as a cabinet minister. Whilst an elected representative is sometimes called upon to compromise the wishes of the electorate for the greater good, it would appear that this time it is for his greater good. Even if he is not re elected, he can rely on a cushy directorship, and all the perks of being an ex cabinet member. He should apply a bumper sticker to his car saying "so long suckers". Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 10 September 2010 1:13:49 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,
I guess its all subjective. I listened to his speech in its entirety - and I certainly did not get the impression that he was trying to "justify" anything, as you claim. He was merely doing us the courtesy of explaining why they made the decision that they did. There is a difference. And, they did sum up the Coalition's offer as opposed to Labor's. Broadband, played a major part in their decision. They chose the best deal for their constituents. Still we each see things from our own perspectives. Some people will see a glass as half-full, others will think they own it. It's a question of - to each his own. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 10 September 2010 2:22:10 PM
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Shadow Minister
I'm sure you heard already http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/10/3008678.htm?section=justin Posted by aurum_philosophorum, Friday, 10 September 2010 4:44:14 PM
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Tell me I am wrong.
Go on think about it if the two ex Nats supported Abbott Shadow Minister and Captain Hasbeen, would be telling us they are men of conviction! Say it isn't true. Gotta laugh. And I remain convinced a DD election is in our best interests, greens however will still control the upper house. Keeping up the deliberate lie, that these men got in on conservative voters back, while condemning them for past ALP Backing turns these two in to Monty Python funny men . Goodonya fellas love a laugh. Posted by Belly, Friday, 10 September 2010 5:34:17 PM
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Belly, Foxy,
It was interesting that in turning down the cabinet position that he had previously asked for, he mentioned "the pressure" being applied. Apparently the fragility of his position has started to dawn on him. His survival at the next election is precarious as the independent who brought in a Labor government, but as a Labor minister his future past 3 years is non existent. With Wilke wanting to block the mining tax because it is not high enough, things are looking shaky for JG. Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 11 September 2010 6:17:52 PM
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See you are still all at sea,and still trawling that baby's nappy behind you.
Shadow Minister,well bought up, but as ugly as usual .
Labor and Nationals can not remove these two, you know that their personal vote is Iron tight.
No secrete Labor never took Oakshot on in NSW.
He took the seat of the ex deputy PM from the nationals.
You clearly are telling pork pies.
His vote is personal not conservative and you know and understand it.
But you are huge fun, and along with Hasbeen a symptom of just why you lost an election very much there to win.
Never again will you get so much help from the ALP.
NSW will give you joy, me too, no deference the trash will be taken out but a return to accountability will see the new team come back stronger.
Thanks for the enjoyment but reality is a worth while path.