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Can the EPA be trusted with Hazardous Waste

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OK 2H

So where has the council been dumping these wastes you refer to in the past?

I'd be really interested to know.

I presume that the day to day operations, if the more stringent regulations apply, will be performed by council employees and it's environmental officers who will be obliged to test for contaminants and accept or reject waste, prior to landfill burial.
Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 2:57:13 PM
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Dickie
I didn't mention this because is is a seperate yet related issue and would detract form the current issue.

The other nearby tip is Lyndhurst, one of 2 Toxic Waste tips in Melbourne. Previously it only had a life of a couple of years, now the Government has decided that they should continue to 2020.

The only way that could happen is to convieniently offload some of the waste elsewhere, So, where do you think they want to send it at little extra cost, why lets all send it to local tips and allow Lyndhurst to talk less waste in total but at much higher ratios than before.

The landfill can't move, it's a big hole in the ground that was only ever to be Municipal Waste.

The EPA would control the monitoring, the change would take the Council right out of any control. I believe the EPA at the Lyndhurst Toxic tip uses self monitoring by the operators.......
Posted by 2H, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 4:37:01 PM
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Dickie, I was a tiptruck driver in the early eighties,dumping stuff opposite Tullamarine airport across the Bulla rd. They were dumping foul smelling affluent there 35meters away were I was dumping fill.Driving south on the property I noticed they were building a huge concrete pit approx. thirty meters deep x 15meters diameter. I think they are dumping hazardous fluid waste there.Maybe they are pumping it after treatment under the road to fill airplane tankers only across from there to spray out above Melbourne and surrounds. I do have pictures of airial spraying!
Posted by eftfnc, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 9:02:19 PM
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I am a trade union official trained in the removal of this stuff, please do not trust the EPA not workchoices not the local council, not hang on do you know fire fighters turn up at a fire without protection and walk in to a building full of it? on fire? do not trust your local fire brigade .
I am a fire fighter do not please trust us!
trust no one but beleive this in a suberb of Newcastle some months ago next to a school a building burnt down, full of it!
Fireys worked in it kids ran all over 300mm of it cars drove through it .
EPA told us its not us see the fire brigade ,who told us see work cover, who told us see the council who told us see the fireys.
It ook 10 days! ten days of exposure to see a great man and wonderfull lady in that concil say ENOUGHT! and do the one thing we begged for put a fence around it.
In 20 years some kid from this area may die a dreadful death, trust no one .
And if they work for goverment? be very afraid.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 1 February 2007 3:09:10 PM
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Belly, hazardous waste management should be one of the largest issue for citizens in this country. Most don't care!

In 2001, the government managed Bellevue hazardous waste site in WA erupted into flames. Massive explosions made this one of the biggest chemical fires in Aust.

Huge white fireballs erupted with thick acrid smoke from the compound. The DOH, DOE and DME, responsible for regulating surely knew that this operation did not comply with its licence and only 2 workers were trained in chemical management.

It's estimated that at the time of the fire, the U/G tanks held between 500,000 and 1,000,000 litres of hazardous waste, 500 metres from a school.

During operations, workers were asked to mix unknown chemicals and acids with perilous results. High levels of chlorinated chemical emissions were found 200 metres from the site - including the very lethal dioxin.

Professional firefighters, racing to the scene of the explosion were ill-equipped to deal with a chemical fire.

A similar haz. waste site at Brookdale WA, managed by the Dept. of Environment has the same disgraceful history of appallingly managed hazardous compounds.

To silence the Brookdale residents, the Minister advised that Brookdale would no longer accept PCB's and perchloroethylene and would eventually close.

This much was true since almost the whole of Perth's hazardous waste is now transported to Kalgoorlie for treatment and dumped at a local landfill. Only 10% of hazardous waste treated in Kalgoorlie belongs to the Kalgoorlie area.

Governments are well aware that cancers and DNA altering diseases from exposure to organic chemical emissions have a long latency period and the source of subsequent cancers is virtually impossible to prove.

Three years ago, the WA cabinet endorsed a committee, set up to make recommendations for safe hazardous waste plants, to protect citizens.

Environment Minister McGowan last year, for no reason, sacked the committee.

Has he been influenced by lobbyists for the current, shabbily operated but profitable H/W industry? I think so!

This is what happens when you put lawyers in charge of the environment and public health.
Posted by dickie, Thursday, 1 February 2007 7:04:25 PM
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dickie I agee 22 years as first on scene at truck roll overs taught me a lot.
History will show I buried ten tons of such waste from such a truck for the NSW RTA under orders!
Later after a fish kill in nearby water ways they said nothing had ever been buried there!
6 workers from that scene died of cancer early in life.
Now as a union official I have seen a building knocked down with machinery ,piled up in a heap, reloaded on to trucks, taken just out of town and set on fire!
Never trust goverment of its hildren with such matter!
That building was 45% asbestos!
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 February 2007 1:45:07 AM
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