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See, the problem patricia, is that your whole argument is based on assumptions. You know nothing about these children, you're only guessing that they aren't citizens, you're only guessing that they've immigrated (and not just visiting), you're even only guessing that they don't know English.

Basically you're not in a position for any kind of judgement or commentary unless you know these things for sure.

And trust me, if they've moved here for good, and are young children, they'll learn English. Kids learn language far more easily than adults do (A 3 year old learns an average of 4 new words per day, without even trying).

So don't worry!
Posted by spendocrat, Monday, 29 January 2007 1:33:38 PM
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Sadly you do not have life experience to understand what I am saying,your ignorance would not have helped in this situation I can see ,I rest my case. may god help non english speaking persons who need help.Seems like you would'nt .
Posted by patricia22au, Monday, 29 January 2007 3:03:17 PM
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Patricia22au, your statement:

“Sadly you do not have life experience to understand what I am saying,your ignorance would not have helped in this situation I can see ,I rest my case. may god help non english speaking persons who need help.Seems like you would'nt”

is rather, in itself, ignorant, unhelpful and slightly patronizing. Unlike you, I cannot comment on whether Spendocrat has any life experience, or is in fact ignorant, as I don’t know him in person. Judging by his posts, he appears to be reasonable and has not made any overly ridiculous claims.

I confess that I lack any life experience and is generally ignorant and at times retarded, from my understanding of the Bible, God looks at everyone equally, whether they are English speaking or not. He would not only help those who cannot speak English, but those who are very good at it too (yourself included).
Posted by Goku, Monday, 29 January 2007 7:01:48 PM
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I recall two little white girls who were wearing acrubras walking

past my house and my cat Ginger went out to greet them.

Ginger is a friendly pussy who is always on the look out for someone

to pat him.

Anyway out he went and instead of patting him they kicked him in the

guts and said 'bugger off ya smelly cat'.

Ginger ran off and was noticeably very upset.

I said to the girls "now that wasn't a very nice thing to do was it"

The older one of the two looked defiantly at me and after a while

responded by saying 'My Dad said that you blacks should not be

allowed to live in our neighbourhood and he reckons the government

probably gave you your house free”.

I didn’t know what to say, I was speechless.

All I could think of was -

• Did they kick Ginger because of me and my family?

• What had their father been saying about me and mine?

They walked past me and went on their way, looking backwards every

now and then with a look of pure contempt for me.

I felt angry but also very sad for them.
Posted by Rainier, Monday, 29 January 2007 9:25:31 PM
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Thanks Rainier. Very apposite little story.

Any one interested in the issues raised here should definitely watch SBS at 7:30 PM tonight (Tuesday 30 January):

http://www.sbs.com.au/whatson/index.php3?id=1396
Blue Eyed: Indecently Exposed

Jane Elliot is an inconspicuous little old lady, but her workshops are astounding.

As a taster, check out her list of "typical statements" http://www.janeelliott.com/statements.htm
Posted by w, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 7:19:55 AM
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Patricia,
I agree with Spendocrat that your whole argument is based on assumptions.

Any parent would have taught their children to be aware of strangers so the kids acted appropriately by walking away.
When my kids were younger they probably would have reacted in a similar way.
Kids being scared of barking dogs is nothing new. It happens all the time. We can't protect kids from every little thing in life and if they were startled by a few barking dogs this would have taught them to be aware of dogs.

If the kids would have had to walk a fair distance, I would agree that an adult should have accompanied such young girls, but if it was just a few houses down the road it's fine to let them walk on their own.

Also, I don't know of any school in Australia that does not teach basic English. Are there in fact, primary schools that don't teach English?

Ranier,
it is very sad that there are people who teach their children to hate.
The link between animal abusers and abuse towards people has been established.

I'd find it very tempting to have a talk with these parents- they should know about their kids' terrible and abusive behaviour.
Otherwise these parents will remain deluded into thinking that their kids are perfect little angels.
Perhaps kids like these should be accompanied by an adult until they know how to behave in their community.
Posted by Celivia, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 11:55:49 AM
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