Dear OUG, I actually learned and enjoyed more from your words than the intro chapters in the document [genuinely]; a reminder on aspects for self. As you suggested I may have done; read the heavier parts prior to reading the other chapters. Will give it another go tomorrow evening. Logged on here too late tonight. Thank you most kindly once again.

Dear Severin,
quite right, I'll knock off the deprecatory remarks.
The link between "great literature" and intelligence or morality is very dubious indeed. I acknowledge to myself that a large part of my motive in acquiring it came down to Bourdieu's concept of "cultural capital": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_capital We're all ultimately motivated by the will to power, whatever the currency.
It makes for more sense and civility to merely read for pleasure and not for culture; as one of the TMNT once said, "Hey! If I want culture I'll eat a yoghurt!" :-)

Dear AGIR,
intriguing.. You're being very cagey about the personage and the exchange. More information please..? I agree there is no right and wrong, or truth, except what we choose to observe. "Freedom puts a torment on men's souls,"

Dear Foxy,
I agree with the GI that we need a doctrine, or a "church" (in the broadest sense) but we need something "plausible and benevolent", to suit our current predicament; traditional religion has ever failed us in those departments. Even Buddhism is nihilistic, indeed Lacanian in its meditation on the real and the promise of "jouassance".

To all, Freud's last lecture "A Philosophy of Life", is a wonderfully humbling read, and very accessible: http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/at/freud.htm

Isn't the internet great!!

Dear Squeers,

The internet is great, I agree, and
it's Thanks to posters like yourself,
that adds that extra spice to this
Forum.

I've just remembered, there was a whole
gamut of writers that I enjoyed while
living in Los Angeles that might be
worth a mention. Writers like - Noam
Chomsky were always interesting,
Gore Vidal, Pulitzer Prize
winning journalist - David Halberstam
("The Best and the Brightest"), his famous
analysis of America's Asian commitment,
"The Making of a Quagmire," and his dispatches
from Vietnam gave an accurate picture of what
was really happening.

Closer to home, Robert Manne's "Biff Goes Bang,"
(Oct. 2005) in "The Monthly,"
the last word on Latham, would be interesting to
re-read today. As well as, "Murdoch's War,"
July 2005, on the Iraq invasion.

I'll keep adding as I think of some more...

Dear Foxy,

I'm a fan of Noam Chomsky too. Also Arandhati Roy, E.F Schumacher and Ivan Illich.

Dear Squeers,

Have you ever read Virginia Woolf"s "A Letter to a Young Poet"? Her advice to this young person developing his craft was offered in the best tradition of the Bloomsbury group that surrounded her. The group provided a forum for literary thinking and she generously passed on this ethos and encouraged this young poet to look outside himself and write about the world around him.

Dear Poirot,

I love Virginia Woolf!

The following website may be of some interest:

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/w/woolf/virginia/w91d/chapter1.html

"The Death of the Moth, and other essays."

It includes, "A letter to a young poet."

dear/we-are-unique...i have been/spending..some time..trying to comprehend..the section on-how/healing..is accomplished..and will try to give/some..clues as to/how..it could be made/more comprehensable..lol

i have previously..tried it/at..the/celisteen-prophecy/site

http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewforum.php?f=29&topicdays=0&start=500

where it/was being done..the ways/it was intended
[ie as a daily-thought]...that over/time..began to make sense

i tried editing/it/to make it..more comprehensable

http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1171

but now/see...its/not intended..like most want/to use it..for instant gratification..

it truelly/is a daily-meditation..meant to/be discussed...point by point...[even jesus needed..12..that believed/in him..to do/it]

i go/to..manuel/teachers..section/5..to explain..it looks/in the standard-format..but really..is a group/of sub-headings..

the how/healing..is accomplished/..is intersperced/
..by the spiritual-reason/for sickness..

that begins..with the words,,<<when this/occurs>>..then/it..goes-on/to describe..the demonic-reasoning/..behind/why sickness...is...

noting/the reasoning..sounds-insane..because its how/'they'..think...
as/is pointed out..at/the..beginning of the..3rd paragraph..

<<And what/in..this insane-conviction..does healing/stand for..>>..etc

really..the 2de/half/..of the..2 de paragraph..and the 3rd paragraph..should/be..at the end..as they/are confusing..where they currently/are...

why they are/there..is possably..because/of a karmic/law...[see spirit..cannot but/be fair/..jesus must allow/demons..their share-equally]..[this allows the reader-freewill]..which is the/..biggest law..there is

see/that jesus revealed...that..'even a beast/in the stable..would know his masters voice'..those reading/these words..*must/decide..for them selves..

what is OF/jesus...and what/is not..
the clue..being jesus=love
[if its not of love..its not/of..the christ]

im sorry/if..i gave impression/it was easy..or..
all the work of jesus..[it was channeled/by one..who did it unwillingly..

lets face it...there are many..who..'claim to hear/jesus'...and the only.way..we can know..is/if..the fruit/..is good..love

[ie.by..knowing its/..from his love][by knowing/our masters voice]

some addendums/..from my notes..to end...

<<sickness is a method>>..whereby demons hope/to subvert gods glory...<<concieved in madness>>..

we know madness is not the truth/..thus/it isnt.*value/..isnt real...

it's/thus..an illusion/in-fluenced..by the negative/agencies..
who reason thus..

that sickness...is..<<..for placing gods/son..on/the..throne of the father>>>throne=our/heart

noting/job..when the sons-of god...met..we may assume..'the son'...attempting..to usurp..'gods throne'..isnt our good/christ

further...the two paragraphs..revealing

the..'insane/conviction'..reveal/..the spiritual reasoning/behind sickness...

im sorry/if,its too deep..
[we do have eternity..to figure it all out..lol

for a clue..rev 21;5..the throne/god sits on/
is our heart..[sustaining us/all..to live]..
emaunel/=god-within..[with-in-us..all]

anyhow take heart/

<<healing is accomplished>>...as soon as..<<the instant/the sufferer no longer sees..any *value...in it>>..

<<healing..must occur..in egsact proportion/..to which..the value*lessness..of sickness is recognised>>..

its all karma/..and free-will/as hard/as..that is to believe