TBC it was not till I got half way down your post I found I was not reading another tapp post.
The old AWU is bad rubbish is running free I see.
Are you aware of your old stamping ground the thugs and mugs doing state wide agreements before the IR laws changed.
To thieve from casual Laborers morning tea break, travel, tool box payment for time taken?
WHY brown paper bags maybe, forced memberships? you know the system join the idiot union, learn to chant rude insulting things on demand or we will not start you.
You will be pleased to know they now work for another supplier and get $180 a week more.
Bill Shorten is a leader Rudd was a dictator .
After this mess is over the truth about an ego bigger than the moon will come out and leaks? yes and you know who from be happy with conservative gains, and refugee boats from the ALP to greens but mainstream Aussies will never think like you,if you think at all.

Oh Belly, you surely didn't disagree with anything before I mentioned Shortens name?

The AWU did help Rudd to power, and they did, clearly, allow him to go bonkers in the job, and they did elevate Gilard from her failures in IR and education.

All that is on the public record Belly.

Where we do not agree on Shorten's skills/ability is another matter.

I honestly do not understand what you mean here "Are you aware of your old stamping ground the thugs and mugs doing state wide agreements before the IR laws changed", so you'll have to translate that first.

I am aware that in the world of unions, there is no honesty. That is, if one union can do over another to get a deal or members, then they will.

Unions are just like small businesses in that respect.

And many unions sell out their members to keep 'in' with the boss.

I've seen it in the TWU, SDA, CFMEU, MEWU, LHMU, ASU.... at different times and in different situations, and between the ASU and QPSU, in all their different shades over some years.

Maybe, given the lack of talent and ability in the ALP, Shorten does stand out above the dross.

What I know, is that the AWU delivered Rudd and Gillard, and that really is a 'thanks for nothing' situation, as far as I am concerned.

I could not ever say every union employee is worth the air he/she breaths.
I would not ever support a grub, just because he came from my union.
You mentioned the grubs who sold out their membership, doing a deal for members just weeks before the laws changed.
Bill Shorten ,he IS THE MAN WE ME TOO thought Rudd was.
My party MUST tell us of the real Rudd.
I remember his RAAF outburst, never knew it was word perfect.
the interview about ETS that saw the real Rudd pear out from under his ego.
I thought from your post history you must be an ex official of the boring yesterdays thugs and mugs Union.
Sure you do not have a black balaclava in your boot?
Cheers just pulling your leg, how about goggling the speech's of Shorten?