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The Worm and the Great Debate: Jesus vs The Vatican

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JESUS VS THE VATICAN: On Child Abuse and Women Priests

I would like to propose a thought experiment:

Just suppose there was a TV debate tonight between Jesus and the Pope. The topic of the day is: Should ‘child abuse’ and ‘women priests’ both be considered as grave crimes to be punished by excommunication?’

Suppose there is also a ‘worm’ which records, in real time, the reaction of the audience to what Jesus has to say and what the Vatican has to say on these two current issues. What do you think is most likely to happen?

Well, to find out we can first check the record to see what Jesus has had to say about child abuse and compare it to what the Pope says. And, on women priests we can also check their record to see their different viewpoints.

Second, you can imagine how the worm reacts as we track their viewpoints during this debate. When the Pope is in sync with Jesus the worm goes up and when the Pope is out of sync with Jesus the worm goes down. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Why bother? What is the purpose of this thought experiment? Many people are now saying that the Vatican has lost its moral authority because it no longer represents the views of its founder, Jesus. The purpose of this thought experiment is to allow you to do some fresh thinking to see if this is claim is valid.

If you want to have your say on this debate click here:
http://www.schoolofthinking.org/2010/the-worm-and-the-great-debate-jesus-vs-the-vatican/
Posted by sot, Sunday, 25 July 2010 8:06:09 AM
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It is a fantasy, Jesus does not exist the pope is saying nothing and any out come would count for nothing.
What is so dreadful about Women in the church?
Surely child abuse would far out way your dislike of women?
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 25 July 2010 3:36:00 PM
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The late blooming of a blue orchid.

How very topically and circumspectly put, Michael. You wouldn't have got away with messing with that in yesteryear, would you? And now you are cracking the forbidden trifecta all at once: politics, religion, and women.

Let those who have ears to hear, hear.

And may at least one Bishop be among them.

And thank you in your vicarious role as provider of your comments thread on your site for the oxymoron of the day:

"Thank God I'm an atheist now."

Just too good.

You haven't been reading any of my recent posts by any chance have you, Michael? That little dormant thing in your CV could become activated again you know, and you could be called back to where you would be under the forbidden trifecta once again. That would be interesting, wouldn't it? Especially for someone with a strong Constitution like yours.

Just thinking laterally, old chap. As you would want me to. I quite enjoyed your little thought experiment. I hope you may be enjoying mine. The luck of the lottery to you.
Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Sunday, 25 July 2010 4:53:10 PM
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Regarding work on the sabbath, Jesus himself said that the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath.

How many other petty rules and regulations are made much of by those who have no other aptitude?

Has the Vatican cured even one disease?

Has it protected any, like paedophilia?

Case closed. As Corp. Hicks said "nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure".

The relevance of the church is over.

The only question is, should it be made illegal in public places, like smoking?

Rusty
Posted by Rusty Catheter, Sunday, 25 July 2010 9:25:26 PM
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Posted elsewhare by accident......

""jesus" *supposedly* said"

I wouldn't want any body to think that *I* thought a document largely written and heavily edited in the reign of constantine could possibly be as accurate as, say, the observations of Darwin.

Rusty
Posted by Rusty Catheter, Sunday, 25 July 2010 9:33:43 PM
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IN the eyes of some secular judges it is not possible to be a child molester if you are an actor or artist. Pornography is judged as art and raping 13 year old girls receive pardoning. Maybe the Catholic haters should look in their own backyard before sprouting their
prejudices. Unfortunately I think their blind dogmas and hatred prevent them from this.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 25 July 2010 11:43:43 PM
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