Pelly..interesting point in that last post. I think you're quite right, we do (I do for sure) tend to be more sympathetic to 'our guys' doing the killing/invading etc than the other way around.

What I was hinting at, and leading do, was the Weathermen underground.. and this is what occurred.

'DECLARATION OF WAR' (issued openly and unambiguously) to a radio station, in the aftermath of the killing/(murder) of Fred Hampton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbpTvkpZluk

I put it in the opening post, but didn't mention the specific bit at issue.

So..what do you think here.. the Weathermen have declared war...they backed this up with the following:

1/ June 1970 Bombing of NY city police dept.

outcome?--> On July 23, 1970, a Detroit grand jury indicted 13 Weathermen members on conspiracy to bomb and kill.

2/ Sept 1970 Timothy Leary Prison Breakout.

3/ May 1972 Pentagon Bombing.

Amazingly... in 1973... Charges were DROPPED! Why? aaah..

a) Legal technicalities
b) Gov't did not wish to disclose in public trial the methods they used to gather intelligence.

Considering that NOW.. Bernadine Dhorn and Bill Ayers, members of that group... are now 'respected educators' (choke) I think it would have been more beneficial to the state, to declare war on them in the first instance in return and eliminate each member they found

Umm people, before you engage in this discussion there's something you should be aware of.

Boaz/polycarp/agir is NOT placing the topic here because he "genuinely" wants discussion on the topic. He's using you.

The reason for the topic being here is that it gives Boaz a soapbox to espouse the far right wing politics of the USA fundamentalist religious right. The links go to the very heart of the social and political mores of this USA religious/political fundamentalism ....... they enable Boaz to control and direct the course of discussion (in order to make his political points).

Just remember folks, the purpose of this disingenuous topic is to provide a platform for Boaz. He's using you. He's NOT interested in "genuine" discourse ........ while at the same time trying to give the "impression" that he is: It's an age old technique used by the far right USA religious fundamentalists; they are experts at it.

Al
My point still applies to your most recent post. A declaration of war by a few fanatics is not a military war and as I said there are laws that cover home-grown terrorism or criminal activity.

benq,
I'm not sure Al is Proxy/Boaz/Polycarp. They have both posted on the same threads often one after the other and while I know this is technically possible, he feels different. But I could be wrong.

Yes it is clear Al has a consistent agenda but most of us do. Some contributors are perhaps less black and white and are more open or tolerant of different views, or at least to understand the view from the other side.

Pelican, Boaz, polycarp and agir are the same person. This was confirmed by the owner of this site, Mr Young, on a thread here several months ago. That's how I know. He gets banned, and comes back under a new name. I don't know who proxy is.

This topic about the Black Panther member's killing in the early 60s (relating to the associated politics and ethical questions) has been used by the American fundamentalist religious far right for nearly 50 years now for political purposes. Why did Boaz/polycarp/agir choose this specific subject in order to promote fundamentalist politics? Because that's what his mentors in the USA do ........ Boaz is one of them (it's where he gets his info from), even though he's in Australia. He can't think for himself, which is obvious; but that's actually good, because it means he's not bright enough to effectively hide his posting motivations and that's a good thing (but he tries and tries and tries, this thread being a good example).

EDIT: The killing was in the late 60's, not early 60s as I stated a few minutes ago; and the USA fundamentalist religious far right has been using it for political purposes for over 40 years. These fundamentalists have a lengthy anti black history that goes back to the late 1800s, and they take political advantage whenever they find black organisations that break the law or do bad things. That way they can promote their anti black agenda, while at the same time appearing self righteous and in support of the law. The fundamentalist leadership has always been manipulative and quite clever in this regard.

Well I stand corrected. That disappoints me I thought with Al there was some litte ray of hope in there. :)