rehctub,
I don't think the employment is an issue, as we coped with massive changes with the introduction of railways and motor vehicles and before that the 'industrial revolution'. Likewise when steam replaced sail on the oceans.

Belly,
with due respect, I do not think you can get a household to run with a $1000 solar system alone. Most solar houses I have seen have gas cooking and seperate hot water or gas hot water and fridges. Even with the current rebates it is not economical for me to change to solar. Batteries need replacement after a time and are costly.

nairbe,
The problem with solar hot water systems was, and maybe still, is that they only operated with gravity presure from the roof cavity. If that has been overcome they could be worth considering.

"Can we really afford 'clean energy'?"

We sure as hell can't afford polluting, unsustainable energy.

Next question.

Well Severin, isn't it lucky that isn't what we've got. Of course it would be if we had to go back to burning wood, & cow dung, as we would have to with "green energy". Our nice clean well organised coal power houses put only harmless plant food into our air

Don't kid your self Banjo. Spain, the king of "green" has lost 2.2 real jobs for every green job created, at great subsidy cost. Each of those green jobs cost their taxpayer over A$180,000 each PA.

Worse, the green jobs are now drying up, as their economy fails under the cost of those subsidies.

But even worse, the drought of green jobs is about to expand, as the now broke Spanish government has announced cutbacks in those green subsidies. It's that, or join Grease as a failed state.

Mate, we can do without that extreme mess. If only we could get the over green, & the warmists to look at the facts, we could avoid so much pain to come.

Look. Over there. It Hasbeen and he's holding up a Red Herring.

"Cow Dung" and "Wood Fires". Watchoo talkin' 'bout?

Here, I am a kind hearted person this should help:

http://www.ecogenmagazine.com.au/news/

"Clean energy is the generation of electricity with zero and low greenhouse gas emissions. This covers renewable sources such as wind, solar and water, as well as waste-to-energy, gas-fired generation and energy efficiency.

Clean energy is a major area of growth within the broader energy industry. With an increasing focus on the effects of climate change on the Earth and our way of life, the clean energy industry is receiving increasing attention and investment within Australia and overseas. "

If you are not too old to use a computer, you are not too old to learn.

:D

I don't think that solar power installations on normal domestic premises is the answer.
All those home units could not install them.
Think about it, the maintenance burden is not insignificant.
Most people can turn a switch on and off but that is about their limit.

From where does anyone think the people to maintain such systems on
every dwelling will appear ?
Remember we are talking of a time when we will need 100 times the
number of farmers that we now employ.
That is where all those in the mining industry will be employed.

No I am afraid the "Greenies" have overstated the ease in changing to
alternative energy. The availability of materials like rare eaths and
a number of other metals are going to put big hurdles in the way of
the energy transition that MUST take place.
To give Australia more time we should stop export of coal and natural gas.
Pity about others, but it will be everyone for themselves quite soon.

Re nuclear waste, I am told that repeated reprocessing techniques
now available can reduce the half life quite considerably.

People can say that this is all nonsense, but the geology is not listening to you.

Severin have you heard of Rocky Point. That's where we Queensland taxpayers built, at great expense, a waste burning power house, to be fueled by the left over biomass from the sugar mill.

We sold it off for scrap, the power was far too expensive to use.Cost us millions. A similar story to the experience in Spain, & Denmark.

It would appear to me the learning difficulties are in the green/warmist camp, where it is hard to get facts past closed eyes, & into closed minds.

My mother still reckoned, on her 99Th birthday, that there are none so stupid, as those who just wont learn. Perhaps she was old, but not as stupid as your lot.

It does get painful talking to those who's only equipment are ear plugs, & rose coloured glasses.