Col Rouge wrote:

""If it had not been for European colonialism there would have been Arab colonialism, or is what is happening in Darfur a myth?""

Africa is made up of 52 plus countries.

And I not sure if all those countries would have of been colonialized and robbed of the billions that now make European countries rich.


quote:

""I recall cannibalism was rife throughout many parts of Africa before "European Colonialisation""".

Cannibalism is/was pratice all around the world by every race.

"""Tribal fealty and absolute Monarchs is the sort of social order which the Europeans evolved out of centuries ahead of Africa (European Monarchs are constitutional Monarchs only)."""

Actually African Kingdoms were around before Europeans knew anything about Africa. Like the Malian kingdom which was started around 200 BC.

"""If we consider the European intervention in finding cures for a range of deadly diseases which blighted anyone living in Africa, we could see the benefits of European colonialisation""".

What if we consider the deadly diseases European brought with them to so many African countries, not to mention the millions of Africans killed during their occupation.

In Africa today you can still find countries where their natural resources would them some of the wealthiest in the world.

quote:
"""One simple question

What is the life expectancy of Africans 20 years ago?
What was the life expectancy 200 years ago?
Since the de-colonisation of Africa, Why is life expectancy going backward today"""?

I'd say that before colonialism life expectancy was higher. After the French,German,Portuguese,Spanish,British,Belgians were finished robbing and killing things got worst. Why would they get better after all that destruction and death?

What is so very annoying is the hypocrisy dressed up as expression of religious freedom being used in a very evil way. By his I refer to Hillsong, Assemblies, and Exclusive Bretheren types who are as equally dangerous as the Jihaadist espousers in the Islamic world. No love, or care, for fellow humankind. No one dares speak against them for fear of being branded as unpatriotic or Un-christian.

No difference fundamentally, just different sides of a religious divide - one which fails on all fronts to take into account the diversity and uniqueness of each and every one amongst us. Only zealously, dogmatically proscribing what we should do for "them" through us.

But who are "they", these pulpit pounders of all types? Would they, like the politicians who support them, don uniforms and fight the dirty little war of terror, as they ask us the foot soldiers, to do for them?

Not some altruistic and utopian view, but a real chance to embrace the idea of being human, being of different views, colour, race, ethicity, and to celebrate it all without the clash and clamour of multiculturalism and its negative connotations. Is it not worth the effort?

Some people just do not want to get on, they are the ones who should be sent back from whence they came. You are not welcome anywhere, is that perhaps why you are not in your own countries today?

To the religious right, you are not 'right', you will never be right. You are only right for the time being that the political apparatchiks can get mileage from your over zealousness. And like last weeks bucket of prawns, with a bit of heat you too will be off.

False prophets...both the Bible and the Koran foretell of them, and many other religions besides...now they are in plague proportions amongst us.

Dear Albie, it is with anticipated questions like yours in mind (about fighting the war on terror and the role of Christianity) that I deliberately wrote this thread...
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=348

Please have a read and see if it scratches where your itching.

Re Hillsong.. you can criticize to your hearts content. Let me help
"To the extent Hillsong preaches a 'prosperity' Gospel they are not representing the true Gospel as Christ lived and preached it"

Jesus said nothing about "Follow me and you will get rich" but he DID say plenty about "Lose your life for my sake and you will find it"
(speaking of self denial, not suicide bombings :)
He taught people to pray for "your daily bread" not your dream of a BEAMER.

All I ask is that we criticize the church and preachers from a BIBLICAL perspective not just a 'lets kick them' one.

TO EVERYONE

THE SOCIAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS VIDEO (as per the topic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPBV3hwxTVY&mode=related&search=#

Created by Lebanese Muslims. The following features are present in the Vid.

1/ Territorial Claim. (Australia is under 'new' management... Lebanese)
2/ Glorification of 'thug' life, guns.
3/ Suggestion of Racial superiority over many suburbs in Sydney.
4/ The specific glorification of the Maroubra 50:1 attack on Steve B
5/ Portrayal of 'lowered holden Gemeni's' :) (I just don't get that one.)
6/ Mention of 'Soldiers' of Granville.

The important question we must ask is: "How many Aussies are afraid to mess with such mobs because of their apparent reckless power" ?

If you look at the video and cringe, and shudder.. hoping they never find 'you'... and simply hoping in the police for security, then I think you have lost the plot and you may as well simply approach them and offer your services as their slave.

MAIN POINT. What do I want to say here ? THIS. "Radicals drive agenda's" They might be thugs, morons, idiots.. whatever, but THEY are the ones you are afraid of, and while you are afraid,....they ...control your life.
I've sent this video to NSW POLICE for what its worth.

SIMILAR VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPBV3hwxTVY&mode=related&search=#

Titled "Wogs Lebs Muslim souljas" is equally bad, but since I saw it, and commented on it, they have now made it 'private' so you won't get to see it. But..NOTE CAREFULLY the Title. "MUSLIM" soldiers.

Rabble rousing Pericles ?

And here is one for you DB

is this one of your apprentices?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EQCy3syaoI

The danger here is that my husband, as are many other people from Lebanese background, are not like that. Nor do they want to think like that.

There are young people in all cultures and religions that are very angry and they are lashing out. What we need to find out is why our youth feels so angry and try to do something to help so that things change.