In the evolution of man, it doesn't matter what man does, but it must be in balance with all we see in today's world. Man is a new creature here and with our selfish motives we must come to terms with our actions. I talk to all with the thoughts of all economics and how this rules everything we touch. What concerns me is the 2012 as the prophets say its so, i would not take it as truth as they are people that lived a long time ago (religion). There is a degree of accuracy with the developments of mankind in this 21st century, and I'm afraid we wont make it as a human race. How many people does it make to spoil the planet? (just a hint of the religious past history, and man/woman as a whole)
How many starving people on this planet does it take to see the point that the worlds in trouble? How many times are we going to do this lesson?
And why do you only see what you want to see? There comes a time when we see the greed/nature that we all are, hence survival of the species as David Attenborough has pointed out to all of us.

continued.

I'm not going to bore you with details because your minds are sharp and smart, and with the righteous minds in development we can only poise for a moment in a time which is ours. I wonder if you all take time out from your computers and take a walk in the parks and have a look at the wonderful world that you where born in as a human species, I feel your missing the point of life itself. I have given my best thoughts any human can give and if that's not good enough, something else must be giving you the strength to see more than i do. I am but a humble servant in ore of all your great beliefs and structures, but for the life of me I will never figure you humans out in a thousand lifetimes.

In all, we have such a short time here, and it echo's your voices through out time and all is recorded and said in law or not as a growing species. ( Iam starting to sound like foxy )... smile. I have spent 30 years studying human beings and I do like to put down in the simplest of text for all to understand, I hope you don't mind. Its not what we do, its how we do it. The world is such a small place and my 9 year old's tells me this. I think this is a wake up call for all, as they tell me every day.

Good luck

TTM

David f re - A population solely made up of optimists would hasten our extinction. We might survive longer if we recognise reality.

What a pessimistic view

but predictable,

that is what you are peddling afterall.

faced with extinction, a population of pessimists, seeing no point in doing anything, would just lay down curled in a foetal position, whimper and die.

On the other hand, a world made up solely of optimists would find inventive solutions to ensure survival, thus deferring extinction, possibly indefinitely,

And even if extinction is unavoidable, the optimists would turn the wake into a party

Maybe invite the pessimists, but the danger then would be the pessimists would all stand up and have a communal whine, infecting even the optimists with their misery.

- better ignore the miserable b*ggers, thats what I do.

Dear Stern,

I am not peddling pessimism. I am peddling realism, and you seem unable to recognise it.

well... yes, david f

>>Humans thought in religious ways while they were fighting off sabre-toothed tigers<<

I hadn't intended to imply that none of them ever gazed at the night sky, and wondered "Uggg. Ug, ug ugg" as they pondered the infinite.

And I accept that everything Socrates "said" was hearsay.

>>I. F. Stone wrote “The Trial of Socrates”... His book casts a very different light on Socrates from the usual one.<<

But it's a bit like Shakespeare, isn't it?

Even if the person who wrote...

"Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow,
creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
to the last syllable of recorded time"

...didn't actually have the name "Shakespeare", it still doesn't detract from the imagery in the words themselves.

>>One reason for the reverence of Socrates and Plato in our society is that they were in the core curriculum of the classics taught in Oxford and Cambridge<<

Another is that they "said" stuff that has resonance today.

Much as that which Jesus "said", as reported in the Bible.

After all, since Jesus left no writing behind him we have to piece his thoughts and actions together from what other people wrote of him.

Don't worry, david f. According to one eminently qualified pessimist, it's humans who'll become extinct, and relatively soon:

<< Frank Fenner sees no hope for humans

Cheryl Jones
The Australian
June 16, 2010

FRANK Fenner doesn't engage in the skirmishes of the climate wars. To him, the evidence of global warming is in. Our fate is sealed.

"We're going to become extinct," the eminent scientist says. "Whatever we do now is too late."

Fenner is an authority on extinction. The emeritus professor in microbiology at the Australian National University played a leading role in sending one species into oblivion: the variola virus that causes smallpox. >>

Full story at http://tiny.cc/hlqpr

While I'm not as pessimistic as Fenner, I share your concern about the 'Sixth Extinction' of other species, attributable to human activities.