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Meyer's two rules of online discussion

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"Islam is the victim of (most) of todays wars, conflict and terrorism."

Fixed
Posted by mikk, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 5:47:37 PM
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Dear Proxy,

Get the facts first.

You can distort them later!
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 5:50:19 PM
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mikk and Foxy,

Here are the facts:

* Infidels are your sworn enemies (Sura 4:101).
* Be ruthless to the infidels (Sura 48:29).
* Make war on the infidels who dwell around you (Sura 9:123, 66:9).
* Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day (Sura 9:29).
* Strike off the heads of infidels in battle (Sura 47:4).
* If someone stops believing in Allah, kill him (al-Bukhari 9:84:57).
* Take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends (Sura 5:51, 60:13).
* Never be a helper to the disbelievers (Sura 28:86).
* Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them (Sura 2:191).
* No Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel (al-Bukhari 1:3:111).
* The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land (Sura 5:33).

"Islam is the victim" of what?
Having it's teachings publicised?

Who is distorting?

What's it like being surrounded by books,
having relinquished the capacity to learn?
Posted by Proxy, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 6:02:06 PM
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Heh, thanks to Proxy for illustrating my earlier point very nicely, i.e. "I have noticed that a number of OLO users persistently try to shift the discussion to that of Islam and/or Muslims, regardless of the original topic."
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 6:20:32 PM
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Support said correction, Islam & the global jihad, are at the heart of EVERY conflict on the planet today (even indirectly in the Korean crisis - they are a major source of cash for the North Korean regime).

If peace activists and journalists really wanted to demonstrate how peace-loving our Moslem brethren are, why don't we ever see them taking the opportunity to supply the peace-loving Taliban supporters in Northern Pakistan, or those in Hellmand Province?

It wouldn't be because they'd be captured, tried and beheaded would it? Surely not...

No, let's pick on Israel... We know they will have to explain their actions (instead of hiding in a hole in Iran), we know they will eventually let us out and we know that they won't execute people purely because they are a different religion.

The hypocrisy is astounding, also scary, the current state of the UN equates to that of the League of Nations when Italy invaded Ethiopia... A completely irrelevant body, whom nobody listens to.

Well done, NOW we face the real risk of major conflict
Posted by Custard, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 6:25:44 PM
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In fairness CJ Morgan it was you who brought up Islam / Muslims in your first post on this thread.

I suppose in a way you have proved your own rule. ;-)
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 6:26:58 PM
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