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Daylight Saving, yes or no.

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This is one of those few questions where it is easy to see both sides of the coin.

A few years ago as a Brisbane 9 to 5 worker, with kids who rode show jumpers, it would have been great to get home, with some daylight in winter, the jumping season, to help train them. It did worry me that there was no 'horsey' adult to oversee, & keep them safe.

For those up north, or out west, who due to our geography, get between half an hour, & an our of daylight saving, naturally, another hour could see kids getting on the school bus, in the dark.

As a boat operator in the barrier reef tourist industry, due to the Sydney aircraft ariving an hour earlier, our time, I had to start 2 boats an hour earlier in southern daylight saving. Due to local work, however, I could not stop them early. This cost me a little over $1500 a week in overtime, which I could not recoup from anyone. I had to put all my prices up a little, all year to make up this cost.

As a yachty bum, cruising the Pacific, I sat out the cyclone season in Gladstone one year, & got a job working on the new power house. With a 7.00 AM start, I really wouldn't have wanted to have daylight saving make my start an hour earlier.

As a manufacturer suppling products from Queensland to the rest of the country, It was bad news to have Victorian/NSW customers, who did not think, wondering why we didn't open at a reasonable hour. Had to start 3 staff an hour early to overcome this problem.

Split the state? Yes, if we have to. The cost of not being with the south, must be in the hunderds of millions.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 10:26:12 AM
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I think splitting the state(s) is exactly what we need to do.

I know I personally benefit a lot from daylight saving (adjusting the clock so as not to wake up in the freezing dark during winter or alternatively, waking up 5 hours after the sun rose in summer) to start my day, but acknowledge others are inconveinenced.

Really it just shows that all states are too diverse to be allowed to be ruled by one authority each.
Posted by King Hazza, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:20:47 AM
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There is never going to be a "one size fits all" agreement on this, because everyone has their own agenda.

Mine is pretty selfish. I play cricket, and without daylight saving we would have to start the matches an hour earlier. Which cuts into my Saturday mornings a bit.

Not a very big deal. However, without it there'd be a completely wasted hour of summer daylight in the mornings.

But I have to say it is not a topic that will get me to fight at the barricades.

Or even get out of bed for.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:59:24 AM
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I to did a stint in the whitsundays, mis 80's where we (on the islands) were on DST, while the mainland remaind on normal time. This caused much confusion, especially when the guests were catching the 5 oclock ferry to meet the 4.15 bus on the mainland.

Splitting the state.
Where and how do you split the state.

Go west and you end up with the sun setting around 10pm. Go north and you have a similar problem as Cains is on the same latitude as Charlavile.

Two thoughts come to mind.
1. If you want more daylight, start earlier.

2. If we were going to extend any day, wouldn't it make more sense during the winter months when the days are shorter.

I say leave well enough alone.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 7:11:54 PM
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I used to find mildy irritating daylight saving change at both ends when I had young children as did many other mothers. It took a while for very young children to adjust to different sleep patterns and dark/light confusion.

But, I do enjoy the after-work light to be able to do more in the garden. It must be difficult for those on the borders where conditions vary between the states but I am unsure of who that might affect, maybe Northern NSW and SthQLD.
Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 8:26:52 PM
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We have had the daylight saving debate (fight!) here in W.A. twice now.
We just finished 3 years of daylight saving before having the second referendum.

The 'NO' vote won again. So obviously most people here were against it.
I was a fence sitter.
I didn't care if it stayed or went- mainly because it didn't really affect my work or leisure lifestyle.

Most young mothers and farmers I knew were vehemently against it though, so I imagine it will be the same in Queensland.
My father lives in Brisbane and says everyone he knows is strongly against it.
Posted by suzeonline, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 12:25:40 AM
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I have lived in two states: one with and one without it.

I am opposed to the chopping and changing of daylight saving. It was a stupid idea to begin with. I don't care whether we start earlier or later as long as we stick to the same time year round. Apart from anything else, studies have shown adverse effects in terms of heart attacks and adverse mental health:

http://www.timeanddate.com/time/daylight-saving-health.html

I agree with rehctub - I would rather just get up an hour earlier and
it makes more sense to get up early if we want to have daylight at the end of the work day.

Qld and WA - stick to your guns.
Posted by Pynchme, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 12:41:58 AM
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As the arguments are clearly based on personal preference. (I like DS but my wife doesn't)

However, this could be used to sort out traffic congestion, if half the people elected to start their day early. I know there are problems with this, but it could be better than building new roads.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 8:33:39 AM
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As an ex yachty, I used to get up when it got light and go to bed when it got dark. It just seemed to make sense to me. Now retired, I can still make my own hours to some extent, but it doesn't seem to make much sense to have to wait 4 hours-plus after sunrise in the Summer to conduct any business. I would have thought it more economical to cut the working day shorter at the end rather than the beginning when it is cooler, particularly for those working outside. After all it was created during the war to save power.
Posted by snake, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 11:36:59 AM
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I think most South East Queenslanders would like to have daylight saving but they may be reluctant to have it for 6 months. Most would not want it to go into early April as it does here in Victoria.
I personally think they were right to extend daylight saving to the start of October but were wrong to extend it into April.
Seeing as both Brisbane and the Gold Coast are more east than Sydney and Melbourne, it would make sense but I think South Eastern QLD,and all the DLS states should agree on an earlier finishing time
Posted by Dicks, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 12:16:47 PM
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No.

(The north Queensland take on it).
Just let Brisbane join in with the other states, as Brisbane is where the support for the idea is.
We dont want or need it at this lattitude, it gets dark at about 6-6.30pm, and gets light again about 6-6.30am. While it might be nice to have an extra hour to fish after work each day, it would mean it would still be dark at 7.30am the next morning. It seems to escape some, that the actual amount of daylight each 24 hour period (at that lattitude) will not change.
Yes make fun of us rural people about the cows going off their milk and the curtains fading, but it does seem mostly ill-informed urbanites that cannot comprehend the consequences of the Earths sphericity and nature of its' orbit around the sun.
Posted by PatTheBogan, Thursday, 3 June 2010 8:49:05 PM
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Thankfully I've got a job where I can start early. Occasionally some odd looks from people who started work 2 or 3 hours later than me when I leave mid afternoon but those first couple of quiet hours in the office let me get a lot of stuff done which is harder to do when the distractions start and being home with a couple of hours of daylight left is even better.

We should have more focus on staggered work hours where practical as well as reducing the number of people who spend hours a day to commute to an office where they communicate with customers by phone and email. There must be better ways of managing staff than that.

For most daylight saving would add little if commutes to work were a thing of the past.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 3 June 2010 9:13:06 PM
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Another NQ take here, and another 'no' vote.

I can understand the arguments for daylight saving, but none of those arguments benefit me in any way. And, working as a teacher in a city where so many of my students run on 'island time', I can see many disasters and few benefits.
Posted by Otokonoko, Saturday, 5 June 2010 1:12:10 AM
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