"...such as Jack Straw (UK) wish to limit even conversation of a critical nature.."

Al
Do you mean like banning certain commentators on the ABC if you disagree with their viewpoint or religious affiliations?

Pelly.. fair point...I left myself open to that.. it's ok...

Let's move on to the issue.. the original title of this thread was

U.N. a hotbed of COMMUNISM ? something like that.. a bit too sensitive for the moderator it seems..but it is something I would rather discuss MUCH more than Islam.. I just join in the fray on those other threads because they are at least 'alive' plus my input there is more Pericles/Morgan/Foxy bashing-after all..they need a liberal dose of the verbal rubber hose at times :) (except foxy)

What are your thoughts.. did you check out the quotes in my 2nd post ?

If you want a rest from the 'whackamozzie' threads.. I'm happy (most happy) to have an 'Islam free' discussion here.

There is a small connection though.. it relates to the impact of the OIC in the U.N. but they are only being 'used' or permitted by the big players who are running the show. So..we don't need to address them here.

Let me ask..do you see anything to be concerned about in the UN from that 'Vancouver Action Plan' ? (re private property)

Boazy: << Pelly.. fair point...I left myself open to that.. it's ok... >>

Typical. Boazy admits his hypocrisy in this thread, but won't acknowledge it in the discussion where he actually called for the "banning" of Waleed Aly from the ABC, presumably because he disagrees with his views, or simply because he's a Muslim, or both. We don't know which because he refuses to explain himself.

Sheer hypocrisy, but what else is new?

Dear CJ.. feel free to have a whack at me.. no biggy.. if it floats your boat for a day.

But in truth, your energies would be much better spent on discussing the merits of this thread...or should I say 'threat' (From the UN)

How do you feel about the excerpt from the Vancouver action plan regarding the need to move from private ownership to complete public?

I'd be quite interested in your views on that.

Boazy, why don't you just explain yourself in the context of the thread in which you expressed your blatantly hypocritical desire to ban Waleed Aly from the ABC?

Anybody'd think you're jumping from thread to thread in order to avoid facing the issue.

CJ..

I told you...if .IF.. you take the trouble to explore the link I provided in the other thread.. it would become abundantly clear 'why' I would ban Walid Aly.

In Walid's case, he represents a particularly odious (2quoteU) memory of the ICV persecuting 2 pastors and costing the Christian community over half a million dollars and 4 yrs of peoples valuable lives. He was a member of the ICV which along with the EOC tried to supress criticism of Islam using mockery, ridicule,a conspiracy of networked people in the ICV and the EOC and to repress valid criticism of his own faith. During that period one home of a Christian connected to CTF was firebombed. Walid is just the friendly 'soft' representation of the Wolf in Grannies clothes "Oh Walid.. what elequent words you use" "yes.. all the better to...." and so it goes.

See the link I gave CJ.. do some homework.. find out the truth and you will have a big part of the answer to your question.

One of the reaons your criticism of me is like water off a ducks back is exactly because I happen to know it is founded on pure bigotry and base prejudice rather than actual fact.

I would possibly respect you IF.. you did some digging and at least disagreed with what I presented on the grounds of valid argument rather than prejudice. When that day comes (valid argument from you) we might get somewhere.

You cannot accuse a person of 'Islamophobia' without examining the basis on which people express their concerns. You know as well as I do that 'a phobia' is an 'irrational' fear. The stubborn refusal to see IF something is 'irrational' is just pure bigotry.

But in all honesty..I'd rather discuss the strong 'marxist' elements in the UN vancouver action plan. Are you up to it?