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Should the pope be

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Dear Severin,

POBODY
IS
NERFECT!
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 April 2010 11:29:02 AM
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Sheesh Foxy

Gonna hafta trot out an old truism for you.

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‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’

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No one, here, least of all yours truly, is claiming that all people should behave perfectly all the time.

To remain silent on the issue of child abuse? No excuse, none whatsoever.
Posted by Severin, Saturday, 17 April 2010 11:57:50 AM
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Severin...maybe Foxy was pointing to the fact that while Catholics believe their Pope IS the Earthly voice of their god, and can say-do no wrong because, 'really', the shell of the man houses the actual God, she realises that this is a total fraud played upon the gullible who need 'faith' in something, anything, to continue living, because, in reality, no one is perfect.

The question then.... is their god perfect when housed in an Earthly shell?

Or does the inhabiting of the shell somehow upset the 'magnetic forces' and inevitably turn good to ill?

The sad and sorry history of the long line of linked Popes would indicate so.... mind you, all these Earthly housed gods seem to have the same track record no matter which human-granted franchise they inhabit.

There is a Dalek quality madness, with an irresistible urge to do harm all the time, that seems to ooze from every pore of the Vatican, and ilk.

Maybe the Doctor could let us know how it all ends?

But would the Bush-Palin god be any more attractive, I wonder?
Posted by The Blue Cross, Saturday, 17 April 2010 12:16:37 PM
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TBC

Not for a nanosecond do I think that Foxy believes the pope is infallible.

I am commenting on the resounding silence of the majority of mainstream Catholics. Similarly, I wish more men would condemn those men who rape adults or bash homosexuals - loudly, frequently. A few do - but not enough.
Posted by Severin, Saturday, 17 April 2010 12:23:06 PM
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Severin, "I am commenting on the resounding silence of the majority of mainstream Catholics. Similarly, I wish more men would condemn those men who rape adults or bash homosexuals - loudly, frequently. A few do - but not enough."

Fair dinkum, will you ever resist an opportunity and give it a rest? That is the sort of bigotry and bucket-load of bile that so often spoils your argument.

It is foolhardy to believe that Catholic parents are any less caring than other parents or that they do not do everything in their power to protect their children and those of others. Just because they do not react in Severin sanctioned ways or answer you questions the way you like does not mean they are any less concerned.

There is no rational basis for splitting the people around you into the forever-separate camps of perfect and damned rotten and never the twain shall meet.

Goodness, what have I done, I am now to be regarded as being on the 'other' side notwithstanding my calls for the RC church to modernise, be accountable and make its decision-making transparent for the good of its flock?
Posted by Cornflower, Saturday, 17 April 2010 12:42:11 PM
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Cornflower

Severin's calls are just, calm, reasonable... measured.

I was with some Catholics yesterday, discussing the evil of the Toowoomba Catholic school teacher that the Bishop there has 'promised' will never happen again (change so swift after 2000 years?) and they were not about to undertake any actions to bring their Archbishop to heel, nor Pell, nor the Pope.

Church on Sunday, same as usual.

It is time 'good Catholics' stopped being so aquiescent, stopped supporting by keep silent, stopped going to their local churches on Sundays until the message got through, stopped their tithing...and took their own church back from the heartless animals that run it now.

They will not, I know, because that would require thinking, and action...direct action, and that is not 'the way' of the church led people is it?

They are 'led', they do not 'lead'... that would be too foreign for people with 'faith'.... that would require fire and zeal, vision, cooperation against the status quo, a challenge, some biffo with the Bishop... a call to arms,an undermining of the powerful, and so on.

These caring shattered bystanders you plead for Cornflower, "does not mean they are any less concerned"... being 'concerned' is never enough...action Cornflower, action!

Where is it?

Have Greg Sheridan, Christopher Pearson and other DLP-Vaticanite reps who spruik on behalf of your church said boo! yet?

Has Conroy taken off his Opus Dei underwear and thrown it back at Pell yet?

Did I hear a squeak from that great Catholic feminist in NSW, Keneally? (how does that compute? A feminist in the Vatican? Has she not heard about the lack of female priests?).

Are the pages of the (Catholic) Oz running with Papal blood?

Never.

All quiet on the Western front... this will all blow over, and soon be forgot.

Till next time, of course, then the apologies will pour forth again...'sorry' 'never again' 'who'd a guessed?' 'instructions were issued'... 'this will never happen again' 'our thoughts are with the victims'... meanwhile, back in church, the real issues are back on the agenda "no foreign coins in the collection plate please."
Posted by The Blue Cross, Saturday, 17 April 2010 1:38:59 PM
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