Dear Scotty... haven't seen you post here before, but welcome mate.

yes.. ur absolutely right in my view. We HAVE to win it. I recommend a peak at youtube searching on "muslim protests in london" and see what comes up.
Scotty, if ur passionate about this, why not email me jjjdrmot@yahoo.com.au and we can discuss a few things.

700 SUDANESE.

C.J. I've run out of posting opportunities for the Multicultural thread, but I've confirmed (with the Police) that the figure 700 was a) Correct and b) ALL Sudanese, and of at least 2 tribal groups.
They explained that there is one tribe mainly living on the other side of town, and one over the east, they goto functions together and that is where the tribalism erupts.
I don't have a huge problem with the hacking into each other 'tribally', thats their business, and we can educate them in time, but they will never be hacking into US, for religious reasons.
Tribalism dies when there is a common enemy.

I think you owe me an apology for your "rabble rousing and misrepresentations" :)

Forgive me Boazy, but I'll wait until you can substantiate your claim from reliable and independent sources that can be verified. I'm afraid a conversation that you claim to have had with "the police" really doesn't carry much weight.

A riot involving 700 Sudanese in Melbourne shouldn't be hard for you to provide independent corroboration.

C.J. ur missing the point here. I raised that issue NOT to point to 'those bad evil wicked black Sudanese' but to point to the issue of tribalism and flaws in multiculturalism which we should be aiming our policies at managing and overcoming.

So, while I am 100% confident of my source, its irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion. I urge you to ring Dandenong police if you have doubts on that particular matter of fact.

You need to remember something, often in the turmoil of day to day life, we see one story here (TV) and another aspect there (Newspaper) and put it all together in our mind to make up the full picture.
You quote of BB's statement did nothing to diminish the impact of what he said about Pauline, a shuffling of words only-he said she was racist (made racist comments) and was bloodsucking.... and not only that, you yourself slandered her by suggesting she did her political activities to 'get money' and while I cannot speak for her personally, I assure you I would never want to go through what she did just to get a few bucks.

I'm glad at least that you rank Islam lower than Christianity, but if you simply make such mild comparison, you still have much to learn.

Regarding the topic... in regard to an Islamic enemy, one needs to comprehend the dimensions of the mindset. Psychologically, Mohammed pretty well 'sowed it up', by appealing to the primal lust of men, offering them 'minimum' 72 virgins as toys in paradise if they died fighting for Allah and opportunities to rape and pillage (war booty) if they survived.
So, live or die, their efforts are connected to "lust" and sexual gratification. Did you actually see that video link above on youtube of the ex Muslim in Egypt...and what happened to him ? I encourage you to do so, its quite illuminating.

TOPIC.....

Since my last post, I've perused the papers and this little gem cropped up

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/local-push-for-islamic-state/2007/01/08/1168104922239.html

AN ULTRA-radical Muslim group banned in many countries will promote support for an Islamic superstate in a seminar in Australia this month. (Hizb Ut Tahrir)

Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman Wassim Doureihi said the purpose was to highlight the reality of political struggle in the Muslim world and the obligations of Muslims in Australia to raise these issues, and to raise awareness of the caliphate.

"The caliphate is a political reality. It's imminent. There is a burgeoning Islamic revival, and it's only a matter of time before the caliphate is a state," he said.

Asked if he wanted sharia in Australia, Mr Doureihi said yes, by 'peaceful' means. COMMENT (cough cough)

"Islam is universal. The caliphate would be a role model for the rest of the world."

Mr Doureihi said Hizb ut-Tahrir sought to win hearts and minds but denied that the group in Australia was shadowy or extremist, saying non-Muslims were welcome at the conference.

COMMENT
and you can guess who will probably attend....

No, Boaz. You are missing my point, which is that on your own record, anything you write here should be regarded as bulldust unless you can corroborate it. Frankly, I think your claim about a supposed riot involving 700 Sudanese youths last weekend is pure fantasy on your part. I say this based on your past record of telling lies and distorting the facts in order to further your odious agendas.

For a small sample of Boaz's mendacity and distortions of the truth in this forum, please check out http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=347#6318 .

Boaz: "You need to remember something, often in the turmoil of day to day life, we see one story here (TV) and another aspect there (Newspaper) and put it all together in our mind to make up the full picture."

A good example of how Boazy distorts reality in order to fit his deranged worldview is his recent misquote of Bob Brown with reference to Pauline Hanson, which he then uses as justification to shout out the most offensive lies about Senator Brown that one can imagine.

Full details of this may be found at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=5153#67016 .

Boaz has been shown not only to be a liar in his comments in this forum, but also an unrepentant one. For this reason I think it is very wise to take anything he writes with a grain of salt unless it is independently verified.

I'm not missing your point C.J. but you are definitely missing mine.
You question the veracity of my contribution, and to accomodate you, I make indepenant enquiries myself, by phoning the police to confirm what I watched on TV, plus (more of the same story) I read in the papers. Dandenong police, here is their number, (03) 97677444
Now.. you are basically calling me a liar, and I really don't think that is justified.

You can call me occassionaly lacking in 100% accurate recollection, but not a liar.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/hanson-attacks-diseased-immigrants/2006/12/07/1165081058437.html

"She really is a bloodsucker on Australia in terms of the way in which she divides the country and makes us look an uglier country right round the world.''(reported comment of Bob Brown)

Same article, further down.
"She is world famous for the racist comments that she makes and it does damage Australia."

Now..C.J. if you cannot get "Bloodsucking Racist" out of that then stand agast. My mistake was to put his key words and sentiments together "Bloodsucking" and "Racist" and saying he is calling her a 'bloodsucking racist' which is exactly what he is calling her.
Or.. is it just 'bloodsucker who MAKES racist comments' etc ?

Are you seriously trying to tell me Bob Brown has NEVER called Pauline Hanson a racist ?

I'll seek to learn from your wise counsel and avoid making his separately expressed sentiments about Hanson into one sentence as though it was a quote. I stand by the truth of what I said he said, except for that, and feel apart from concatenating, I was correct.
Do you deny this ?

Calling someone a 'bloodsucker' is as vile as it gets- so, I gave some back. its called 'mirror'.
He did not even say (as I did) "in my opinion".

I'll let your post stand...so others can see it (and ur colors)