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So what's worse, speeding or drink driving?

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rehctub,
Make it a trifector I agree with StG and Shadow minister on this on.
I think there's a table pertaining to this in Butterworth's road and traffic act binders if it's still printed.
Do the crime do the time simple.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 18 February 2010 10:27:38 AM
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There is no difference between speeding or drink driving, and there is no such thing as a minor speeding fine. All of the above are outside the law. Fines should be much harsher. Anybody who accumulates enough points to warrant loss of license, has a problem and should be dealt with medical treatment.
Speeding is a blatant disregard for anyone else on the road or off the road. All they think of is themselves.
How often do you see cars racing to a red light, is this so they want to be first there.
Taking roundabouts at full speed with infant kids in the car. Their brain is to small for their head, no wonder there is so many drongoes around. They say shaking a kid is not good, so whats the difference about roundabouts.
A speeding offence is instantly off the road i say.
Posted by Desmond, Thursday, 18 February 2010 12:58:04 PM
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Exam, you say; Do the crime do the time simple.

Fair point, nobody can argue with that, but why then do drunks get a work licence?

The Blue Cross
One would assume that to have witnessed such lunercy, as you called it, 70MPH, then 100MPH, you would have had to be traveling with them otherwise you would have no real idea just how fast they were traveling.

Fabricating a story just to make it all sound good can catch you out. I hope you have not been caught out here hey!

Now as for 'serial speeders' as some call it, four points can be lost in one or two offences.

Also, if one owns a company car, they can avoid points in QLD by simply paying 5 times the fine.

Can't do this for DUI hey!
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 18 February 2010 8:04:16 PM
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Who gives a toss rehctub?. Both are offences, deal with it and move on.
Posted by StG, Thursday, 18 February 2010 8:56:00 PM
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Rehctub,

If one accumulates too many demerit points, one is sent a letter, asking that one opt to either hop off the road for 3months or to drive without further demerits for a year. Purely automatic. If one subsequently gets more demerits, the license is automatically suspended. This suspension is real. The "work license" is the result of a "special hardship order" from a judge. The suspension remains in place but provides for the driver to continue to earn a living thereby preventing "special hardship" to dependents, creditors, or the driver (losing home etc). A critical condition is that the judge find the driver to be "a fit and proper person" to enjoy such privilege.

I suggest your employee should have sought legal advice, even if he chose to self-represent for such an application.

He requires a letter from you specifying how you cannot employ him without the license and cannot guarantee re-employing him later. He needs people "respected in the community" to vouch for him. He needs to show how he or dependents will suffer "special hardship".

Irritating as it is, your employeee needs to convince the judge that he is aware of his driving failings, contrite, and willing to improve.

I don't remember if there is a window for the application, there may be. Having applied, he may drive until the matter is heard.

During this time, attending a defensive driving course is a good way to show willingness to improve (and tax-deductible). Reviewing one's driving history as much as possible indicates self-examination.

I believe that routine accumulation of points (not too many at a time) is less detrimental to getting the hardship order than DUI, "fit and proper" and all that.

Good luck!
Posted by Rusty Catheter, Thursday, 18 February 2010 8:58:16 PM
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rectum

You really need to travel further afield:

"Fabricating a story just to make it all sound good can catch you out".

70 mph is pretty fast, so when vehicles fly past and practically vanish in no time, it doesn't take much to know they are going considerably faster. I was driving a hired small-car, was unfamiliar with the route, and was quite happy to drive at the speed limit, when the motorway was clear enough to do so, thank you.

Here's a snippet from beyond your horizons:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article3508185.ece

"Cameras that detect average speed will be deployed on hundreds of miles of motorway under a Government plan to force all drivers to comply with variable limits.

"Drivers will no longer be able to exceed the limit knowing that police rarely prosecute anyone driving at less than 85mph on motorways. They will also no longer be able to slow down when they spot a camera.

"Unlike Gatso or Truvelo cameras, which typically cover less than 100 yards, average-speed cameras work in pairs to cover several miles. They use numberplate recognition to record the time it takes a driver to travel between any two points and work out the average speed."
Posted by The Blue Cross, Thursday, 18 February 2010 9:53:43 PM
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