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Grants to exclusive Brethren

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Philo,
It seems you missed my point it is our money in terms of the government is ours. But, no group as such is *entitled* to to the money. IMO much less o religion that can't show greater good. and even less so to exclusive isolationist groupings.

Appart from which it isn't cost effective for a handfull of children when the real aim is to facilitate indoctrination into an isolationist ideology.

Likewise, I would object if a group of religious white supremacists wanted to set up a school for just *their white* spoglets.

You can't Logically or meaningfully separate EBs or individuals from the commonwealth revenue pool by way of entitlement shares in the way you seem to argue argue. To do so would defeat the purpose of a government.
Posted by examinator, Monday, 18 January 2010 1:58:21 PM
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I see philo you too use the word cult.
Ok should we extend the right to funding of cults to fit in with freedom of religion.
Did those who first said say in the American constitution mean every religion?
If I follow you line we should also give to Scientology.
This mornings news, said private schools got a bigger share of government funds than public, is that ok?
At what point do we ask for accountability from cults.
I can not think as you do, public moneys are ours we should have a say in how it is spent.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 January 2010 4:40:18 PM
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Belly,
Teachers have to be educated to accredit the school for Government funding so I would suggest if they were it would mean they have been educated outside the group and exposed to another world view. Many former members have left the group, so it is possible the group may change internally also.

Deal with the issues that need to be changed rather than isolating them into an exclusive socially outcast cult. Such attitudes will not bring them into the 20th century but retain them in their socially oppresed state.
Posted by Philo, Monday, 18 January 2010 4:55:15 PM
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Philo sorry, but I do not think we can link the possible evolution of this cult to public funding.
While you offer promise, and it is true, for every one who leaves another may want to but not be able.
Others stay and grow stronger.
Some people will be unhappy with other funding, but do we tax payer think supporting groups that offend us is wise or needed.
Make no mistake I remain commited ALP , but Kevin Rudd MUST read this mornings polls and understand taking his side for granted is a dead end street.
I remind our leader of HIS WORDS in describing this group.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 5:12:54 AM
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Our population is made up of all sorts of people.
A lot of us - an unhealthy number, alas - are happy
to believe in a lot of rubbish if it will see us
right when we croak. I was 'educated' by lunatics
in black dresses with orders from Nazi supporter
Pope Pius XII to make jelly of our brains. The
government of the day backed them to the hilt.
Jellied brains are easier to send off to war,
apparently.

This $M70 is chicken feed compared to what we give
to the ratbag purveyors of superstition in this
country. And when you factor in the amount given
to non-religious ratbaggery across the board -
parliament, bureaucracy, the tote, legal drugs,
sport and whatever you care to name - it makes me
ask what these poor buggers of the Brethren have
done to look so culpable of a crime.

I think we ought to spend another seventy million
on lifting the quality of debate in Australia. No,
bugger it: make that seventy billion. That's how
big the problem is. And it gets worse by the day.
Posted by Sock Ratteez, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 11:02:16 AM
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That was a bit rude mate.
I had noticed you around and while you may have been here a while I have not seen you.
So welcome.
But let me be frank, I found this post uninformed.
See that old tote thing, are you aware tote returns much more to tax's than it gets?
Have you seen the sale price NSW got for its TAB? it was much more than the $888.888.000 I have quoted in two other uniformed threads.
Now I do not think ANY tax payer funds are free from questioning by us.
Do you understand NSW makes big money from its lottery's, one once ran only to fund the opera house construction?
I am a non Christian, dislike the Catholic church but you truly give it to them don't you?
Let me tell you their charity Vinnie's is the best help the poor could ever ask for.
Seen any hungry non EB lined up for shelter of food outside that cult?
If you wish to fund better debate start a thread with a subject we can all take part in and this forum can always do with donations.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 4:47:15 PM
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