Tuvalu,Niue,The Maldives, The Gilbert Islands, The Cocos...for these and many other island states climate warming is an impending disaster and the populations of these nations are all potential refugees...

These nations are going to be affected drastically. Their people will be displaced. Disease will wipe out their populations. Increased storm activity will wipe out their homes. These nations are fighting for their very existence, and for their children and children’s children.

Stop and think for a moment. Imagine that you, your spouse, your children and grandchildren are living on an island. Each year the water around your island home is rising higher. During storms your home has water running through it. Your cropland is affected by salt and is not growing enough to feed you, so each day the children are whimpering because they are hungry. Your drinking water is brackish…you have nowhere to go and no hope….

If you can imagine this…the level of despair and hopelessness, then do something to help. Start demanding that the Australian Government take action to REALLY help mitigate against global warming by acting to reduce atmospheric carbon to less than 350ppm instead of pissing around the edges of the fire.

Is that where that acrid smell is coming from?

HermanYutic,

Funny, I read a contribution from a person who cares....and you, a comment about the source of an acrid smell, Hmmm.

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dIBBSY1000,
Welcome to OLO(?)
Morally you are absolutely correct, sadly, I doubt you'll get much support from some on this site. Notwithstanding, the core of those who think before they type.

The west has, by and large, been conditioned to expect an overly affluent lifestyle and many will go to extraordinary means to avoid what is clear. This includes:

-Blame others for our excesses.

- denying that AGW exists despite the science.(BTW, I did note, that on a current topic that discussed the science none of the noisy 'sceptics' chimed in with alternative science. hmm )

- That there are winners and loser in the system, so long as they're not losers.

- claim their rights/comfort are more important than other's survival

- cultural chauvinism is more important that other's survival. (Fortress Australia).

- Politics trumps humanity and science.

- oh, did I mention, arguments by extreme and ad hominem attacks instead of a objective discussion.

Good luck anyway.

Yes, thank you for your post, and disregard the wally that posted under you.
I,ll try to be sort with this.

All mankind can do at this point in time, is too get ready to ride out the changes that are in no doubt coming with all the ferocity of nature can muster. The islands population is the number one concern with 83000 + people, and we all know the story that's connected with Easter island with the same problem. its the same thing again. Too many people and there is no band-aid solution no matter how much we think we can do.

Its every country for its self, and all around the world, all lands, its all hands on deck. Your leaders are going to have to make some hard decisions and the US/ British seem to of had an early interest in the development of your culture, so lets see if they turn there backs on you.

Good luck

We are all going to need it.

Dibbsy, I share your concern. We are indeed pissing around the edges of the fire. In fact, we’re exuding a few drops of urine several metres from the damn fire!

Whatever piss-weak agreement Copenhagen comes up with, or that the world comes up with post-Copenhagen, it is still going to be a watered-down urine dribble somewhere well-removed from the centre of the funeral pyre.

There is just no way in the world that we’re going to address this issue in a meaningful way.

Walk with me has got it; we need to get ready to ride out the changes. And that’s about the size of it.

I guess that there are four groups of people in this thing –

Outright denialists, skeptics, do-something-now realists, and no-nothing-coz-its-too-big-and-expend-your-energies-on-adapting-to-the-changes futilityists.

I’m totally torn between the last two.

I don’t want to be seen as a denialist supporter, but given that this issue is in reality too humungus for humanity to handle, it could be much better to just continue with business as usual, and thus with unfettered CO2 release, until it is reined in by nature.

If we slow down the release rate bit, which is all we could really hope to do with our best efforts, we could well be just making the problem worse. If there is a bigger but shorter CO2 peak event, then its effects could well be considerably less in the longer term.

dIBBYS1000,
Global warming has not been proven, in fact the temperature has dropped in the last 9-10 years. This is in spite of increased CO2 being emmited by humans. Science cannot explain why the decline, so the whole thing about human induced global warming is simply a theory and the computer models are shown to be very inaccurate.

Water finds a level, so why is not the seas rising everywhere? Measuring station in Tas has not recorded any appreciable difference, I have not noticed any difference in Sydney Harbour in the last 50 years, nor has friends at Lakes Entrance.

It has been reported that at least some of the Islands you mention are sinking because they are formed on less than solid foundation. This being so, I am sure that if they keep sinking international aid will come to assist to relocate the people. In the meantime why do they not take steps to build the islands up and plant vegetation to filter the sand and lessen the erosion from storms. We do that here where coasts are suject to erosion. It is called self help.

At Copenhagen, there was a young woman from Fiji that tearfully pleaded for the delegates to save her home. What rot, Fiji has mountains up to 1300m high. Another bloke supposedly from another island did a similar tearfull display. It turns out he lives in Queanbeyan, NSW and has done so for 10 years.

Why all the deceit and exageration? Why,if human induced global warming is so real, is it necessary to fudge the figures and 'hide the decline'.

In the last few days there has emerged questions about the temperature figures used from Alaska, Russia, Orlando, NZ and Darwin. I suspect we will see more figures questioned.

Someone else revealed that the New York Times has had stories about pending ice ages and warming, in the last hundred years, a dozen, or more, times, all supported by eminant scientists.

No wonder a bloke is sceptical!