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'New World Government': Albrechtsen outsources hysteria

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Once again, Janet Albrechtsen has written nonsense (http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/janetalbrechtsen/index.php/theaustralian/comments/beware_the_uns_copenhagen_plot), and, once again, it has been laughed at by everyone capable of independent fact-checking (http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2009/10/28/off-the-planet/)

Interesting line of attack, though: Copenhagen will usher in a “new world government”. Seriously? Since when has global government been on the radar for Australia’s alarmist Right?

This brand of hysteria is a uniquely American phenomenon. The U.S.A’s libertarian nuts believe the reptilian overlords will impose it in order to plant mind-control chips in us, while the evangelical Christian nuts believe a character from a teen novel will form a global dictatorship in prelude to the Rapture. So far, however, neither of these absurdities has been popular with Australian conservatives.

Albrechtsen writes to fools, but she is not one herself. Why, then, would she try to hang an argument on such a bizarre, alien, and easily-debunked conspiracy theory?

It may be a reaction to the industry lobby’s woefully unsuccessful war on science. Apart from a noisy minority that would believe in Santa if a Rio Tinto executive ordered, no-one is convinced that the world’s scientists are colluding to produce fake data and destroy the global economy for the glory of socialism.

Rather, the anti-science movement continues to back-pedal, and Albrechtsen may realise it will soon be buried under the weight of evidence and common sense, just as it was in the case of tobacco. Is she trying to retain relevance by herding the useful idiots into a new framework for undermining human progress?

Alternatively, perhaps the Murdoch press, and not just Albrechtsen, wants to move the climate change debate away from science - where the industry lobby is getting mauled - and onto quasi-religious territory where facts don’t matter so much.

It will be interesting to see how this develops. Albrechtsen wouldn’t try something so strange if she didn’t think it would be taken seriously by a decent portion of the paranoid Right. Keep an eye on The Australian for ominous warnings of a one world government. Can NewsCorp spin the pet issue of American schizophrenics into a front-page issue for Australian alarmists?
Posted by Sancho, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 9:14:09 PM
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Most on the left assume that there is only right and left but to get to right or left you go through the point of balance, the true reading on the plumb line which they fail to see because they are real aginners
Posted by Richie 10, Thursday, 29 October 2009 6:14:21 AM
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Sancho, I agree with you that this article is “alarmist”. It is curious though, that the climate change supporters don’t see themselves as “alarmist”, how odd.

What I got from this article was the fact that regardless of the aspirations of the “note to the secretariat’ is the existence of a set of expectations from negotiations and that these have not been part of the public debate until now. This was the whole point of the article.

Why would you not wish to hear what the Copenhagen Treaty seeks to achieve?
Posted by spindoc, Thursday, 29 October 2009 8:33:37 AM
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Albrechtsen is simply trying to make the most out of her final few days in journalism.

Once Rupert puts her behind his paywall, no-one will pay $0.02c to unlock her.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 29 October 2009 8:41:45 AM
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Hi doubting Thomases. This was started by Christopher Monckton, one of Margaret Thatchers legislation advisers. If you mock his politics, at least recognise his knowledge of legislation and its wording. Another expert was the late Sir Humphrey Appleby, but Christopher Monckton can be questionned. I did and his answer is in the vein of Janet's blog.
Want to look at para 38 of the Draft Treaty?
Go to http://wattsupwiththat.com/?s=COP+15+Treaty and work it out for yourself. Then, perhaps you will query why neither Rudd, Wong nor Turnbull have told the public about this future for Australia.
Thank God for Barnaby Joyce.
Posted by phoenix94, Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:06:57 AM
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Further to my previous, if you want to read the Draft COP 15 Treaty and have found it, don't restrict your reading to para 38. Go back to para 29 and read through it, ignoring the brackets and gathering the import of the legislation.
World Government means that many of our industries will have to cease and we will have to pay approximately four times the aid we currently pay to neighbours who warrant assistance.
I have given you the reference, now look it up and draw your own conclusions.
Then tell Janet that you were wrong!
Posted by phoenix94, Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:30:21 AM
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OK, let's be specific

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13459002/The-Copenhagen-Climate-Change-Treaty-Draft-Sept-15-2009

Is this the document in question?

If not, where do I find it?
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 29 October 2009 12:41:15 PM
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To me her articles tend to be like old supermarket eggs, uncooked, sloppy, sterile,often smelly and not good for anything but mischief . This one is no exception.

Bring back fish and chips having an outer layer of news print, I say.

Then that her more heat than light waste of space columns will serve some useful purpose. Well at least the paper they're printed on will be useful.

Late thought.
Perhaps she doesn't exist and her article are the first draft of the room full of monkeys with type writers in search of Shakespeare.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 29 October 2009 12:52:34 PM
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Janet and I go back a long way, years in fact as she has mostly ignored any suggestions I have made that she may have been wrong about something, but yesterday she is probably right. I was at a meeting about two days ago, and a sixty seven year old former intelligence officer, who was in service in the USA at the end of the cold war, and end of the Soviet Union as a communist country, told us about an interview with Gorbachev.

Gorbachev claimed that the full frontal attack on Capitalism had failed, but a guerilla war conducted with a view to reducing carbon pollution through the United Nations would succeed. That war would be supported by anti Christian members of Planet Worshippers, and the organizations that had already started to campaign to nobble capitalism by denigrating Carbon Dioxide, the most potent fertilizer God ever created, would be supported by him as a United Nations officer.

To institute One World Government the UN has to defeat both Christianity and Islam. The Planet has to become Almighty God and we have to abolish every institution of government we now know, and accept arbitrary rule from the UN. Carbon Dioxide is food. It’s a plant food. Without it we will all die or starve. The ideal amount for maximum plant growth, in a greenhouse is 1000 PPM.

If Janet was any good as a lawyer, instead of just having an LLB obtained from the brainwashing machines called Australian Universities, she would realize that before any Treaty can bind Australia in terms of Domestic Politics, it must be ratified by a referendum, under S 128 Constitution. Otherwise it is just that, a feel good exercise.

I had associates ring me and tell me to go buy the newspaper. They were so impressed that at last the press is giving a fair go to the politics behind the push for carbon taxes. All the usual suspects are out attacking her, so she must be close to the mark. You can tell the caliber of a person by the quality of their enemies
Posted by Peter the Believer, Thursday, 29 October 2009 3:02:12 PM
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Janet is 100% correct.There is an agenda for the "New World Order" echoed by Penny Wong ,Gordon Brown,Kevin Rudd ,Donald Rumsfeld,Barack Obama,Dick Cheney,and many others.Just Google "New World Order" and smell the reality of oppression under the stench of so called CO2 pollution.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 29 October 2009 7:21:26 PM
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I understand that there's a secret clause in the Copenhagen Climate Change Treaty that will require everybody on Earth to have a barcode tattooed on their foreheads.

OOGA BOOGA!!

Albrechtensen's just an execrable shill. That was just one of her sillier columns.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 29 October 2009 8:39:06 PM
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CJ Morgan you have a pre-ordained bias that knows not hard core reality.Perhaps a public servant comfort zone?
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 29 October 2009 9:02:26 PM
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Dear Peter,
Thank you. You are so much better equipt to bring the message of the impending desaster than I am. As in Noah's day the same today.
The message is still the same only today God has provided the ark, his son Jesus. For narrow is the way that leads to life and few there that find it. Broad is the way that leads to distruction and many are their that go in through it. Keep Spreading the message for we won't know who hears and heeds until the final roll call. God bless you Peter the Believer. Keep up the good work. For the choices never change.
Posted by Richie 10, Friday, 30 October 2009 3:24:10 AM
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Darn you, Janet, the AGWers had it all planned out, the perfect trilogy, and now you have gone and spoiled the story by revealing the ending.
Their first book tells us how easy it is being green; green houses, green jobs, green bliss.
Kevvy ,& Wonngy are still in mid-way through this tome –some of the words are a bit big so it slowed then down.

Then after Copenhagen’s signed, with Dan Brown aplomb, they’ll bring out the sequel.
It will play-up the developed worlds need to make amends for all its crimes –reveal that we have committed to paying 200 years of reparations .
But tell us we will all be better for it; we will lift the needy out of poverty, guarantee world peace , and it will provide a catharthis for us all.

But, just when you begin to think it’s safe to exhale again, they will release the real block buster . The treatment hasn’t worked (principally because they have been treating the wrong disease –but, they wont tell you that!). There is now need for drastic action/surgery, for the survival of the patient(ala gangrene).We simply must have a world administration to co-ordinate everything :World govt
But no need for scare mongering, it will all be dem--o--cratic, rule by the majority (the majority of the world will vote for a free meal ticket –and you will pay for it). Whoopi!
Posted by Horus, Saturday, 31 October 2009 5:47:28 AM
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Arjay, your unshakable conviction that there is a permanent conspiracy afoot, guided by evil-doers at the highest level of governments internationally, and aimed at subverting everything we hold dear, should be a worry to you. And to your psychiatrist.

>>There is an agenda for the "New World Order" echoed by Penny Wong ,Gordon Brown,Kevin Rudd ,Donald Rumsfeld,Barack Obama,Dick Cheney,and many others<<

The sad part is that you have absolutely no idea how ridiculous that sentence is, do you? On many, many levels.

As therapy, I suggest you take on board the words of a 14th Century Fransiscan friar, "entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem".

Ponder, and digest.
Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 31 October 2009 7:02:17 AM
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Pericles,Even Janet Albrechtsen smells a rat.She is putting a lot of credibility on the line to reveal the truth.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 31 October 2009 7:06:41 AM
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Shuck’s Arjay, it is not a smelly rat , it is a stinking dead carcase , reeking of the total Lobotomized Witchdoctor theses; the mere fact that NOBODY seemed to know about it , and not utter a word , and eerie silence by nearly everyone ; On how the new consumption tax will affect the Working Australian . Well , I would be safe to assume that in Ruddunistan , they , The Working Family , they will be a distant memory so the Utopian Living Brain-dead can enjoy a short lived unopposed treasure gain.
Rudd had referred to a World Government in Parliament , and Brain eaten and dead Penny Wong continues to advocate social change , and has also openly referred to it , and threatens any who stand in their way.
Just tell Rudd and his band of looting liars to get stuffed , and to rot in hell ; and keep their excrement laden idiocy to the confines of their Psychiatric inpatients ward .

There was a Nurnberg trial – Now there will be a Copenhagen Trial ; Let the games begin
Posted by All-, Saturday, 31 October 2009 10:28:05 AM
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All.I like Pericles calling me a conspiracy theorist,especially about 911.He still cannot answer a simple scientific truth.The WTC Towers came down at the free fall speed of gravity,reaching a top speed of 200 kph.

If the kinetic energy was being used to crush the lower floors as exponents of the official theory say,how is it possible for the WTC Towers to reach such incredible free fall speeds?

He nor any physicist can explain this reality.There are volumes of evidence now that reveal the farce of 911.see http://www.ae911truth.org/
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 31 October 2009 10:44:08 AM
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I would not be too concerned what Pericluless says Arjay; I am sort of chuckling to understand what the 14 century has to do with one world Governance , may have well used a better example of Socialist Idiocy that dates back 2 odd thousand years ago ; and have a listen to this and learn the parameters Of Looters applied Hysteria , juxtaposed to some relevant truth ; http://www.2gb.com.au/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=5043

Even Here ; the Socialist Idiocy and Proletariat convinced people to starve themselves to death ; http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/66/

A new age lazy Murderers religion.
Posted by All-, Saturday, 31 October 2009 11:10:04 AM
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All.It is good to see that even Alan Jones is waking up.Kevin Rudd wants to sign away aour freedoms to a foreign body called the New World Order under the lie of CO2 being the prime cause of climate change.

It will be interesting to see if AJ continues to run hard on this issue ,or will they try to censor him?
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 1 November 2009 10:13:05 AM
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ATTENTION Ajay and other International conspiracy oficianardos.
You are correct Janet Albrechtsen does smell a rat but wrong about her credibility on the line.

SHE is the rat to Rational Judgement.

For her to lose credibility she needs to have some to begin with (outside those people who are circling the drain hole of irrational thinking about to disappear down it, and are happy to do so.)

bereavement notice... dated 1/1/1985
"Big brother died of apathy and internecine power plays"

People like to be scared, note the idiotic notion of vampyres etc.
Nothing sells papers quicker than a threat or an over-hyped scare.
Get serious a conspiracy of this type would require agreement (ha!)
The only people that would think in those terms are those least likely to agree with each other the 'paranoid right, jingoistic etc.'

I suspect it's all a rumour started by the aluminum foil and colander manufacturers.
We're a poor family so we have to take it in turns with the hat, tomorrow is my turn.
Posted by examinator, Sunday, 1 November 2009 11:43:04 AM
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We can only assume that if Reich Fuehrer Rudd states it in Parliament , and the Psychopaths go into denial , then you better watch out ; The Ruddunnistan thugs will get you; How dare they undermined the Third World Vice Fuehrer ; Friends of the Chair of the World Order.

Unless, yes unless Kevin is actually an Impatient of a psychiatric ward, if they were still open. It is rather a stupid attack and absolute nonsense to bad mouth Jennet; when you’re very own Reich Fuehrer Rudd states the obvious , and has in fact by default, called you liars, or at the least – very naive .

So who is lying? You, or the Commander and Chief of the Idiot Sphere?
http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/225/
We know.
Posted by All-, Sunday, 1 November 2009 12:17:14 PM
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As most contributors here would have instantly recognized, All-, the words of William of Ockham are as true today as they were then.

>>I am sort of chuckling to understand what the 14 century has to do with one world Governance<<

If Arjay truly believes that "Penny Wong ,Gordon Brown,Kevin Rudd ,Donald Rumsfeld,Barack Obama,Dick Cheney,and many others" are involved in a conspiracy to create a New World Order, he needs every piece of kindly advice that concerned people are prepared to give.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 2 November 2009 6:55:16 AM
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Arjay, there was a supremely silly but moderately entertaining flick on free-to-air TV last night calle "The Conspiracy". If you happened to see it, let me be the first to assure you that it wasn't a documentary.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 2 November 2009 7:18:09 AM
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Yes, Lord Ockham was very advanced for his time, but I would not consider that principle in relation to subject, and the calibre of the Emotional Apostles advocating this Garbage. Socialism in any form is perhaps a Pathological and Neurological condition ;

For this condition is primarily designed for a purpose that is the opposite to what is stated , and the average person in the street is far too busy going about His/ Her life and surviving , and wrongly trusting Governments and NGO’s to look out for their better interests.

I consider the reason to be, why other countries are entertaining this Tax, by the mere fact that the countries you mentioned and many more are Socialist Left wing basket cases, and have been thousands of times over – Bankrupted, Financially – ethically and morally, it would be reasonable to assume that this is a leftist lobotomized last dig in a newly created shaft to which the gold has been spent before it was ever produced.

That assumption is very reasonable when you analyse each Countries debt to GDP, In Socialism , someone elses wealth has been spent , and NO product in return ; That is not the principle of Ockham’s razor; That is Pure deceit, manipulation, Con and Criminal Propaganda , and that is called Government .
Posted by All-, Monday, 2 November 2009 11:33:05 AM
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