Philo << I have been an engineer designer >>

Were the engineers happy with the results? Did you provide them with built-in slide-rules, set-squares and flannel shirts?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Philo you are free to believe that a patriarchal deity impregnated a human female, then sacrificed the resulting progeny in one of the cruellest deaths for all the sins of the human race (which BTW makes no sense), just as others are free to behave compassionately and decently without believing in any of the above mentioned.

That you take it upon yourself to regularly lecture others on these threads is presumptuous and often offensive because of the position of superiority you allocate yourself for believing your particular religion, while denigrating other religions and the non-religious.

As for your abilities to design engineers (hee hee), if you are claiming that this gives you some ability to apply an objective method of reasoning, you have yet to display such (after how many years?): your understanding of evolution for example?

Fractelle,
Obviously you do not believe in others right for freedom of critical judgment, yet you presume your right to criticise. under your world view there is total conflict without resolution. You cannot have it both ways. In you view it can only be you way. I'll ignore the rest of your post as it does not address the subject.

Fractelle,
Obviously you do not believe in others right for freedom of critical judgment, yet you presume your right to criticise. under your world view there is total conflict without resolution. You cannot have it both ways. In you view it can only be your way. I'll ignore the rest of your post as it does not address the subject.

Little STEVIE!

GO TO THE NAUGHTY CORNER.

And while there write out 10 times.

"I must learn to read what is written and not make up things when playing with the grown ups!" In your best crayon too! >:-|

Philo,

Lets get real, rights are always 'limited rights' or else under the right for the pursuit of happiness, right to assemble et at one could include anything from paedophilia to terrorism. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT.

Society is a compromise. We give up some right for some societal benefit. It strikes me as inane to win some theoretical absolute right at the cost to practical day to day benefits.

Therefore the next question is where do we draw the line? Little Stevie want's to start 'Armageddon the next crusade'. To him the world is monochromatic and binary.

One wonders what would be the point of ripping into another's religion?
Will it make us safer? will it go away? realistically what would we gain? The mutant Muttaburrasaurus in the corner is what will it cost?
I think the answers are clear.

It should be the right of everyone to have the religion of their choice & KEEP IT TO THEMSELVES. It is nobody's right to shove their religion into others' face. I'm sure God doesn't want all that fuss. It just wants us all to be reasonably decent. So many church-goers don't comply with God's rules during the week so what makes them think a hypocritical showing of face on sunday morning makes it all ok. I know I'd rather have a decent atheist as a friend instead of a religious ripp-off merchant.