PP
As an interventionist counselor you only have a limited time and solving problems takes time.
I understand your seeing the problem and offering a solution it's logical however people aren't logical (drat) Even here on OLO if one deals with an issue at the base level and then offers a more wide solution I cope pontificator etc. In a counseling situation one is, as a general rule wise never to sound authoritative in the boss sense as it generally taken badly. This is the contrary to in business etc. where you must show you know what you're talking about. i.e. this is the problem and this is the way we solve it.

I think the counselor might have been concerned about the approach and that that you didn't encourage the person to talk to the counselor. Then again I wasn't there so any opinion is full of the usual caveats.

I don't think this is something that is best discussed openly on OLO But if you search out my email I'd be open to discussing it in more detail where you can give me more SITUATIONAL details NO personal details necessary as we'd be discussing 'in theory' techniques and perspectives not specifics. That way Docs can't get upset.
PS a few others have contacted me and I'm not interested in anything like other and they don't get hassles.It's up to you.
examinator.ant

Piper,

I wouldn't trust anything examinator says, you don't even know him. He says he's a counsellor, but what proof do you have? His general demeanour, poor level of literacy, and superior attitude indicate if he is one, he's not very good. A counsellor would be able to use concise clear language to get a point across. He'd also be able to understand my antics and motivations, but he hasn't a clue. I think you should ask for some proof of qualifications before you take any of his advise at the very least.

Suicidal thinking can result from endogenous depression, which is depression relating to physiological imbalance and not necessarily as a response to negative life events.

While this type of depression can be influenced by environmental factors, it is not primarily caused by them. It will only ever respond in a limited way to counselling and/or a lessening of negative environmental influences.

Houellebecq

<< I think you should ask for some proof of qualifications before you take any of his advise at the very least. >>

I think you should make sure that when you're offering 'advise' on the literacy levels of others that your own are pretty damn good.

Houel I wouldn’t even know what the qualifications look like. I’ll take a stab in the dark at your antics and the motivation behind them though...

You’re having fun.

This is why you’re my most favourite Houellebecq in the universe. Well that and the other one is weird.

Bronwyn that was exactly what I was looking for, well 50% or more. It was just I couldn't see how anyone talking about suicide or even demonstrating it publically would be a trigger from sane to dead without a whole lot of other stuff going on.

Piper

I can confirm that Examinator is not a nutter. He is genuine and sincere in offering help.

Unlike some who are not from China.

;-)

“As an interventionist counselor you only have a limited time and solving problems takes time.”

I’m fast.

“I understand your seeing the problem and offering a solution it's logical however people aren't logical (drat) Even here on OLO if one deals with an issue at the base level and then offers a more wide solution I cope pontificator etc.”

Yes well I had to look that word up.

“ In a counseling situation one is, as a general rule wise never to sound authoritative in the boss sense as it generally taken badly. This is the contrary to in business etc. where you must show you know what you're talking about. i.e. this is the problem and this is the way we solve it.”

See I only have to deal with some strange thoughts and behaviours in little children normally. Distraction and the change of enviroment being my biggest weapon.

I think the counselor might have been concerned about the approach and that that you didn't encourage the person to talk to the counselor. Then again I wasn't there so any opinion is full of the usual caveats.

Nah I didn’t encourage the person, I could well understand they’d had enough talking to people at the time. Problem was one department said they’d cancelled and the other didn't know and without someone official saying something no one is going to listen to me.

Today is different, another appointment and client plans to be absent. Immature but much more effective approach. More importantly - no one will blame me.

Hey Fractelle, I'd suggest the boy has China-envy.