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The Coming Tragic Bushfires

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Banjo I agree in fact while I do not always express myself well my target was always the same as yours.
So many long years ago a little 11 year old kid answered the ringing fire bell, a length of rail track help by a chain and belted with a hammer.
Only kids and mums ran to it, a working day we had luck our fire Capitan was at home.
it has been all of that 4o plus years experience that tells me we are in big trouble.
I never knew todays headlines would be about fires.
But my travels have shown me we are in for it.
Kids no longer do the hard work on the fire trucks some mums may.
But hard headed fire fighters no longer are able to spend winter weekends burning paddocks and roadside rubbish.
Runner is not far from right, some who know little have far too much say, in preventive burning.
Government appointed fools put us all in danger by stopping burning, the paperwork they generate would feed a huge bush fire, in some ways it does.
Now bloke, sorry forgot your sign in tag, even I do not want unskilled and uniformed out in the bush fire stick in hand.
Look closely at Victoria's tragic fires, the Royal commission told us all much of the problem is neglect and sods with ego but no ideas in charge.
We are talking in advance about needless tragic deaths its too late to avoid.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 5:42:37 PM
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The greens have to much of a strong hold in this country, telling us what we can and can't do.

Did anyone see the story about the guy who defied council orders and cleared his own fire break, only to be finned by council. And, guess what, his house was still standing.

I say one of two things.

1. Make it compulory to clear at least 50m from any building
2. Don't allow houses to be built in high risk areas, like on the top of a heavily forested hill.

Also, forests must be cleared of 'fuel' at least every year or two. What is more important.

Remember, every time there is a major disarster, all insurance policies go north.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 8:27:31 PM
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Antonios,
Not only do I think you are a stupid, self opinionated fool, but now also a fraud and charlatan. You will not answer the questions put to you and yet you claim to 'support' all manner of things. I say you give verbal support to things that you think are popular at that time.

Further, I believe you hide behind "I am a poor migrant and my English is poor crap" You have been here 16 years and some of your posts are excellently written and others rubbish.

You say you support womens rights and childrens rights. Yet you openly invite all and sundry to come here irrespective of any cultural practices they may embrace that could be detrimental to women and children. You claim the migrants have rights.

You claimed to support aboriginals, and when a poster, who said he was aboriginal, put forward something you disagreed with you reply with disparaging remarks about him and his mother.

When I critise some migrants for not abiding by our laws and social standards, you call me racist and nazi. Critisism is not racism.

So does multiculturalism and migrants rights to pursue their culture overide our laws relating to FGM and forced marriages. You once said to give them time. Well is 3 generations enough? Croats and Serbs still fight each other and some that were subject to FGM as girls are now having FGM done to their daughters.

We should not continue to 'turn a blind eye' to some cultural practices and give some groups 'cultural privilege'. If they break our laws they should be punished. Not to do so is not fair to all the other migrants that do adjust to our society, however difficult that may be.

If our experiance shows that some alien cultural practices continue through generations, then we should not import any more of that group. This should be done to maintain society cohesiveness.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 9:06:37 PM
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Sorry Belly and others, the above was obviously meant for another thread.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 9:24:32 PM
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ok moving on [lol]...i walked a different path the other day[one of those pathways council build between bush and houses..you would not bellieve the ammount of burnable litter and dead trees and branches on these things...

clearly there needs to be a cleanup of all that fuel before normal burnoff begins..[if we ever do return to small anual burnoffs that is]...

it seems its being done...quite deliberatly...
so they can say see....

its..GLOBAL WARMING...
knowing the pay as you earn mugs
will THEN...simply...take the tax

yes its being done quite deliberatly
but
go ahead and believe what you chose
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 11:46:50 PM
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I forgive you Banjo, it needed to be said.
We will see threads after the deaths and horror, we will ask why, but it will be too late.
Research the recommendations of past Royal commissions and inquiry's, do so with an open mind.
If you look you will find story's about true dedication, whole winter weekends daylight to dark burning of , preventing next years fires, some times just one or two fire fighters.
Different blocks each year, we can not, should not burn every block every year.
But fuel levels are very high, much higher than we can handle, in summer, it is almost,well it is too late to be sure a burn will not get away, turn into a nigh mare fire storm,
And councils say fill in the requests, oh sorry wait for a day, gee too late next year maybe.
People who grow a huge gum tree in their back yard if not killed by its falling Branch's may be by the flames after fire gasses up those leaves.
IF just maybe, a very good team, fire fighters get past the paperwork and get a fire burning before the heat, bet every cent you have some mums and dads who know nothing about Australian bush will put letters to the editor or ring the radio station complaining,,,about an attempt to save their lives.
Sadly that radio presenter knowing even less than the mums and dads will likely highlight it as Eco vandalism.
We need to grow up wake up, and understand you do not have to be an idiot to be a true conservationist.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 30 July 2009 5:31:29 AM
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