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Could Senator Fielding be right?
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Belly, Senator Fiedling is a Christian and arguably his type of "primitive belief system" with "God in control" is no less reactionary than the green world outlook with its belief that Nature is in control. Both outlooks work against progress by denying the liberating potential of humanity's control over, and mastery of, Nature. The green outlook is rather more primitive than the Christian one in so far as it predates systematic religion and is essentially pagan (Nature worshipping). In the twentieth century, it became very dangerous - just read Hitler's Mein Kampf and his hatred of Bolsheviks and Jews whom he believed to be behind modernity's march forward, bringing humanity out of harmony with natural law. Despite the fact that nearly everyone thinks of the Greens as a variant of the Left, their belief system is on the Right.
Posted by byork, Friday, 17 July 2009 6:28:59 PM
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"Could Senator Fielding be right?" I discovered on another website. The poster said that, "Fielding believes that a God created the earth and all the universe in seven days ... But he doesn't believe that digging up and burning fossil fuels and sending noxious fumes into the atmosphere must be wound back lest the earth's atmosphere becomes uninhabitable? I question his rationality!" I question it as well. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 17 July 2009 7:18:04 PM
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As soon as Peter The believer mentioned "Green Religion" in his first post, I IMMEDIATELY knew he was off with the pixies again.
Recognition that the world's environment is vitally important and that the presence of humans affects the environment, does NOT mean that one "worships" the planet. Being "green" is NOT a religion. A religion recognises and worships a "DEITY". The planet is NOT a deity. PTB, your "green" comment was just DUMB, DUMB, DUMB! Posted by Master, Saturday, 18 July 2009 12:21:42 AM
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Anyone who has seen a tree hugger fiercely esconced about eighty feet off the ground in a rainforest tree, trying to stop the Skyrail project from going ahead, near Cairns can have no doubt that there are fanatical Greens, every bit as passionate as the Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland.
Poor old Master must have failing eyesight not to be able to see that in practical terms the Greens are a type of religion and earth worship is what they do. It is diametrically and dogmatically opposed to Christianity, which allows us to enjoy the fruits of the earth, and says that if we have a brain we should use it. It is the absolute manifestation of half education to fail to recognize that CO2 is actually one of the essential elements of life on earth, and without it all life would perish. Every person consists of carbon atoms, along with lots of other essential minerals, all our food is produced by plants taking carbon out of the air and fixing it in cellulose so that plants can produce, and while there is heaps of oxygen and nitrogen in the air, there are minimal parts of carbon dioxide. It is not fashionable to be a keen believer in Almighty God, but the people who have believed in Almighty God are the people who put our country on the map. The belief in hard work, a fair go, and the desire to see justice done in all our dealings is a hallmark of a Christian, or at least the Christians I associate with. There are plenty of cases where unexplained miracles have occurred and that is why the Roman Catholic Church believes in Saints. The Christians believe Almighty God does not work directly but through the agency of His people. When David went out to confront Goliath, it was not Almighty God who killed Goliath. It would not have happened if David had not used his slingshot to deadly effect. God may have guided the stone, but David had to throw it. That’s why Steve asks the questions Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 18 July 2009 6:22:29 AM
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sen fielding reveals he studies the topic..much more that the other followers of the party line...thus is the multiheaded hydra is exposed inherant in the two party system of voter's coping ever more abusing/punitive taxation...
noting to mention the fed v state levels of 2 party abuse..allways result's in new laws..[made by lawyers folowing party policy..resulting in lol NEW TAXES..to save us from our own stupidity the party system aint it neat..[just as neat as the divide of state/national..feed-de-rat/federal]...just as neat that sees reduction of smoking..result in ever higher cancer statistic's.more taxes is its legislated/remedy... its funny how a case is made in the courts..[ie in private by the boys club lawyers]...and the news reports..one party conspired to decieve us in a conspiricy..while selling us the new tax on smoking..[yet the new-tax..isnt a conspiricy...lol..] and the sukkers..[sorry voters..just do as their told..[by lawyers running govt as their own 2 party franchise..and their own law making state/fed frannchise..and the fools..[sorry voters..are none the wiser just as neat as carbon taxes..being..the cure.for global warming..[oops sorry carbon blamed/.climate change...that will be made.by lawyers..and never tested in courts... but even if they were,..they would be tested by yet other lawyers..[so much for the sepperation of powers lol] lawyers making laws...any of you ever study the shear ammount of law beaty passed/changed and adopted...his over two hundred secerataries wernt all needed to monitor the ever reducing media...but as usual not a word..from the sheeple of the media... nor those godheads of virtue..on talkback radio/blogs or letters to the editor..[no doudt a lawyer..in the boys club as well]..discussing sports as news lol.. just like rome old boy..just like rome...any wonder history isnt taught in school anymore...lol..how come smokers/..got their tax,.how come boozers//.got their tax.. how come we are now paying gst tax..how come we soon will be paying carbon tax ..lol..go figure...shhhh dont wake the sheeple...but its NOT/sepperation of law..from lawyers running the two party/two states scam...following the big/boy...big/business..2 party line...peer revieued by lawyers Posted by one under god, Saturday, 18 July 2009 7:56:51 AM
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30,000 thousend scientists sue al gore over lies about global warming
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=3036 alex jones on the carbon tax deceoption http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=1723 Cap and Trade Emissions Bill is The Latest Pyramid Debt Scam http://newsblaze.com/story/20090716053414zzzz.nb/topstory.html Wall Street financial banking barons,..exploitative imperious arrogant elites,..and opportunistic cronies by their backing of yet another illegal controlled pyramid scam law presented to the U.S. House of Representatives implicate themselves in massive world wide criminal conspiracy and fraud in the latest debt scheme Cap and Trade Carbon Emissions Bill HR 2454. its about new taxes http://www.prisonplanet.com/paulson-threatened-great-depression-food-riots-to-get-bailout-bill-passed.html cause the capitalists/fed are bankrupt http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=1711 [and corrupt http://borowitzreport.com/article.aspx?ID=7047 http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2009/07/16/on-goldmans-giganto-profits/ ...a new global tax will do as well as any other tax...its about new taxes http://dprogram.net/2009/07/17/joe-biden-%e2%80%98we-have-to-go-spend-money-to-keep-from-going-bankrupt%e2%80%99/ Posted by one under god, Saturday, 18 July 2009 8:19:49 AM
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