There is a difference between my general observation on the the human race and your personal attack on me, but people like you don't see that.

I note that you don't have any evidence for your rebuttal of my assertion, either. Again, people like you only see wrong in others, never themsleves.

You are not worth arguing with, Steve. Ta ta.

I too voted informally. There was no-one in my electorate who represented my views.

Holyshadow’s idea that we should vote for Labor to support them and get them out of their self-created mess and inexorable decline is misguided. Voting for the ALP will not change the nature of the ALP.

Labor’s degeneration is a reflection of the fact that it does not represent its traditional social base – working people - who it has systematically sacrificed to the dictates of the free market. In recent decades the ALP has been revealed for what it REALLY is – a party representing the interests of business.

Those who believe the ALP will save us, and those on the right who criticise the ALP, should remember that it is social-democratic parties (like the ALP) the world over who have propped up the capitalist system. If there were no ‘leftist’ alternatives, who would workers vote for when they are wanted a change – no-one. What if there was no alternative to vote for? They would have to start thinking about other means to change things.

The apparent lack of interest in the electoral process is a reflection of the disenfranchisement of many by the parliamentary system – which has been revealed for what it REALLY is - the boardroom of the bourgeoisie. The differences between parliamentary parties are merely tactical differences of how best to manage the economy in the interest of business.

It is time to start building a new party which represents the interests of ordinary people, and its goal must be to overthrow the capitalist system.

I can't say I favour compulsory voting. It might increase the quantity but does nothing for the quality. One really bad government and it would soon self correct, as the silent majority starts to take an interest.

Don't like any of the candidates? Stand for office yourself! I did.
You might not get elected, but get enough primaries and you will certainly have an influence.

What we have is less democracy than a elected autocracy:
One can vote & change govt but it does not necessarily mean a change in policies.

Apart from the old bi-partisan ploy -where parties openly adopt the same attitude.

You have the fact that political parties are like fruit cakes (in more than one way).They sell themselves on the basis of the icing/topping but underneath there are a lot of other unannounced or perhaps sparingly announced policies.

By voting for a party you give defacto endorsement for all its platform.Hence people get lumbered with policies which are not in their interest & which they would reject if they were presented with them on an individual basis .-

You are right about change

and if you do decide that this is needed well email me, you will find that since their is no one in your electorate why dont you stand this you would understand how with the constitution.

Its totally up to you

Email:swulrich@bigpond.net.au
The Australian Peoples Party

It really is something diferent

tapp,

Is your party socialist? Does it have an analysis of capitalism?

The main problem is a capitalist economic system in which human requirements are subordinated to the drive for profit. Unless society is reorganised on the basis of human need, then the problems are going to continue regardless of what party is in power.