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Government dental health service budget blowout to $6billion

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Pied Piper.

You asked how to get on the student-training programme.

I rang the Victorian Royal Dental Hospital and after our discussion, they sent me a form.

They are always looking for volunteers.

Again, let me reiterate, the treatment I have received fro the students and staff is solid gold and I could not praise them enough.

There may be a small waiting time depending on whether the quota is filled for the year.

Remember, you have a no now and that will not change unless you ask. Good luck.

The college has many students; most of them appear to be Asian and Chinese. The ones I spoke with state they are willing to go into the rural areas for experience. In order to bring our services up to scratch I believe the colleges need to be expanded or more colleges set up and provided with enough resources and facilities to ensure our students receive world's best practice in dental treatment.

We should not need to steal from other countries. We should be training our own people and undertaking our own research.
However, I would emphasise this. Research funding should be unbiased, should not be compromised, and should be independent from potential obligations to vested interests.

Because governments services have been cut and funding reduced we are now in a predicament where the cost of rebuilding them will be high.

This has been the outcome of narrow policy and short-term thinking. Our governments have been more prepared to privatise amenities or prepared to spend billions on Military, often with bizarre and unsuitable planning. We can send our young people to fight in someone else’s war, yet unable to provide a service to our citizens.

We can donate to the poor or suffering of other countries and ignore our own. Not that we should begrudge helping other countries. The real people of Australia are generous to a fault and readily contribute when they see someone in trouble. You can see how the Australian public has reacted to hurricane, fire and flood victims
Posted by professor-au, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 11:08:42 PM
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Yes professor-au, there is a need for more dentists and therapists to meet treatment needs because even after more than 30 years of fluoridation, dental health education and oral hygiene, preventive projects are only partly effective and leave food on teeth after every meal or snack. This is the main cause of tooth decay still being the most common of diseases.

Oral hygiene fails because over 80% of cavities occur inside pits and fissures on chewing surfaces where the brish, toothpaste and saliva have no access, yet chewing forces acid forming foods inside these grooves, indicating the need for a toothbrush that can force toothpaste inside pits and fissures under chewing pressure.

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Posted by Supertooth, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 9:07:59 AM
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Hi All,

I thought the the European High court decision on fluoridation and its implications to the Australian public would have created more interest.

I was looking forward to reading responses not only from our lay readers but also those from our legal fraternity over the European High Court decision on fluoride.

An advocate and researcher, it is logical to keep an open mind, examine all of the evidence, for and against, before coming to a conclusion or making a recommendation.

Instead we have a situation where the Director of Health Services claims he is just carrying out government policy. He was informed that part of his job was to also advise the government on the very latest information so that the government can make an informed decision or policy.

Still bleating he was just carrying out government policy.

Have people become so apathetic that they will not appose a process that has not proven of real benefit and where there are alternative options available, rather than being forced mandatorily to be medicated against one’s will.

I have been very interested in fluoridation for approximately 10 years. I became interested because the evidence I read and the contradictory statements, along with the authorities finding it important to legislate to protect bureaucrats from being sued by anyone hurt through ingesting fluoride.

People are now asking the governments and the various departments involved that as they declare fluoridation so safe, to provide a written guarantee. So far the government and its minions have refused to accept the people’s request and sign. Why, if it is so safe

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Professori_au
Posted by professor-au, Saturday, 4 July 2009 12:44:15 AM
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Hi All,

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I have found that the fluoride Acts in themselves may be illegal and also contradictory to our Constitution, Medical Acts and International law.

Health departments are reluctant to carry out appropriate research and refuse to meet with doctors, and international researchers. Why?

At several meetings in my region, people, including a mother with an extremely fluoride sensitive daughter, have asked the DHS, Dental Association and local GP Associations that if Victoria fluoridates all of its water, including bottled water how does the government propose to protect those who are sensitive to the chemical.

The mother told the audience that her daughter was extremely sensitive. She stated she could produce medical evidence that it was so. It was the reason why they had to move to an un-fluoridated area. All of those questioned refused to answer.

Evidence in the past few years suggest that benefit is not proven or is minimal at best. However, the damage it causes is much greater than any good.

There is reams and reams of research material, yet our authorities continue to use data that is more than 2 or 3 decades out of date.

I can only assume the Australian public considers the damage to our children and future generations is acceptable for such a minor a doubtful benefit. Dental decay has been researched and shown to be just as much a problem where the water is fluoridated than those who live in un-fluoridated areas.

In that case, the government is trying to treat a symptom rather than the problem.

We need more trained dentists and researchers. Researchers, provided with broad parameters to work within, not so narrow that a pre-conceived outcome can be made.

Waiting lists need to be shortened and the truth be told. Waiting lists are being manipulated so that people drop off and are put on again when they complain. I know from personal experience where I went through the process and waited 8 ˝ years for a set of ill fitting dentures, requiring students from the dental college to make a set that fitted.

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Professori_au
Posted by professor-au, Saturday, 4 July 2009 12:46:24 AM
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Hi All,

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Shortening the waiting list will result on better treatment of patients and result in less removals and less impact on the health of the patient.

Dental care should be a right from childhood to old age. Good Care will save less in the system than the cost of remedial work and other side effects from poor dental systems.

Education of the public on good dental hygiene, less sweets and soft drinks and other acidic foods will also protect the enamel on teeth.

Any potential benefit from fluoridation is not to repair tooth decay but to harden the enamel to create a surface that will make any damage take a longer time.

This can be applied directly to the enamel surface and not damage the rest of the body or its organs.

However, the side effects of cancer, kidney liver, bone and brain damage appear to be ignored by those responsible for our health.

When I found out about the increasing levels of brittle and broken bones among the elderly I started to think.
I am 76 now but remember as a boy and youth, playing football and I believe we played just as hard as they do today.

There were less rules to constrain rough play, yet there did not appear to be the same level of broken bones and fractures suffered by athletes today.

My question is this. If the brittle bone syndrome effects the elderly, when did the effect commence? Did it really commence from a much earlier age?

regards
professori_au
Posted by professor-au, Saturday, 4 July 2009 12:50:27 AM
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prophesor[im used to non response]fleuride is a known carconogen,as for the brittle bone it is well known calcium absorbtion needs supplimentry magnesium to actually use the calcites..but the special intrests cleaning up from cleaning and repairing teeth love the income stream resulting from our ignorance and our pain

the media serves its people...us..poorly with info..[wether due to commercial intrests or deliberated incompitance may be debateable..but the proof of our combined ignorance..needs a base for our deliberatyly dumbed down simplistic ignorances...purely by the collective ignorance..a systematic involvment can be sumised

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Posted by one under god, Saturday, 4 July 2009 8:50:51 AM
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