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Posted by Maximillion, Sunday, 21 June 2009 11:28:36 AM
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<< OK, there's the problem, who's got the answer? >>
I'll bite: 1. Adapt to climate change (this won't happen over-night) 2. Reduce our dependence on fossil fuels (we will have to anyway) Not the answer you were looking for, no doubt. Posted by Q&A, Sunday, 21 June 2009 12:23:25 PM
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The planet has been much warmer than it is now at times when there was no release of CO2 from industries which did not exist. In those times the planet's population thrived; they had more to eat and they were healthier.
Read Heaven + Earth to see just how we have been conned by scientists and the IPCC. Posted by Leigh, Sunday, 21 June 2009 12:57:49 PM
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Is that the same "Heaven & Earth" that's been roundly demolished by scientific reviewers, and for which the author needs to argue for immunity from the process of peer review which underpins the evidence-based science that's made the Western world successful?
Posted by Sancho, Sunday, 21 June 2009 3:34:04 PM
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On a practical day to day level perhaps you might peruse this web site
The reports are scientifically credible. http://www.ghfgeneva.org/Default.aspx. I admit that it's focus is more on others other than good old Aus although we do get a guernsey. It paints a good picture of what IS happening to people NOW. because of AGCC. Not exactly like us but people with similar dreams/hopes and ambitions. http://www.realclimate.org/ is a web site quote "for climate scientists by climate scientists" their latest is about wind changes and the consequences. well worth a look. Foxy if you're passing by this would interest you I think. Hasbeen old mate the answers are there all we need do is implement the more moderate ones. and move from there. No need to go silly and go tribal just yet. One line of endeavour was a terrific program the other night on ABC/SBS I forget which about plastic. Its history, its uses, the problems it causes, problems with recycling. Among these were two facts I didn't know small pieces of plastic attract chemical toxicity from the water and when ingested by seafood it concentrates the toxins in the fish and birds . If we eat the fish we ingest these toxins which accumulate in OUR fat tissues increasing cancer etc. I recommend searching both sites for the programs well worth the effort. Most importantly it showed several how companies in countries around the world including here in Aus HAVE INVENTED and are MARKETING some solutions NOW. Clearly what we need to do is encourage, co-ordinate even mandate appropriately. Organisational theory tells us that the first objective of a business is to survive but I would argue that sometime that means adaptation. examinator's law of apparent (labour saving) technology states “ the more it labour it eliminates the greater the increase in the need for labour to facilitate it. “ The Luddites were concerned about the 'ginny', the car, the telephone, mobile phone, computers that they would create untold unemployment....but have they? Remember the 'paperless' office? We use more paper now than we did then. Point made? Posted by examinator, Sunday, 21 June 2009 5:46:39 PM
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I listened to a ABC Radio National podcast over the weekend which was a revelation to me. It was a talk by Paul Gilding on what the next 5 or so decades will look like. This is the first plausible description I have seen of what the medium term future will look like, from anyone.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/backgroundbriefing/stories/2009/2592909.htm Paul was a former head of Green Peace, who was then chucked out of the organisation. You can see why when you hear him speak here. He doesn't pander to ideologues from either side of the divide. There is evidently large contingent in Green Peace from the loony left, but Paul is evidently a strong believer in companies and in the capitalist system. He is also a amusing and engaging speaker. His "givens" are the globe is warming, we are running of oil and other resources, and the earth is over populated. If you are in denial about these things you won't find his talk as inspiring as I did. Posted by rstuart, Monday, 22 June 2009 11:50:33 AM
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A pendulum will swing wider and wider with force applied, in this case, humanities interference with the natural world.