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Jovian Jolt

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Now now Examinator, I didn’t, Zeus was equated with Jupiter in the ancient world, and the Etruscans called him Tinia, lol.
I agree by and large with Arjay and thee, but I suspect wchh is a little b&w.
If our police were all wonderful Cark Kent types, that attitude might hold water, but they aren’t, and it doesn’t.
Police world-wide are over-using them and abusing their own rules. There was a recent item on the media showing the recording from the police vehicle, of a cop tasering an argumentative 80 yr old woman! For a traffic offence! Another was that guy they tasered repeatedly in the eastern states, Q’ld?, for not crossing a road quickly enough to satisfy them! He wasn’t resisting arrest, or them, in any way. Plus people are dying everywhere that tasers have been introduced, an un-acceptable risk in my book.
I also have serious reservations about them being held accountable under the law, police forces tend to protect their members no matter what, and even when disciplined, it’s no more than a slap on the wrist as a general rule.
Wchh’s last statement beggars belief, not only because many innocent people are harassed by police, and arrested, but also because of his attitude of utter contempt for civil rights. Police are not judge, jury, and executioners, they are an arm of government, and our servants, and are not saints. Anyone has the right to resist an unwarranted or illegal arrest, that doesn’t give cops the right to shoot them, with anything!
The police here in the NT are the most careful, considerate, sensitive mob I’ve ever seen, they outshine any other Ozz force, in my opinion, yet they have their wrong’uns too, and commit offences, and get drunk etc etc, just like the rest of the population, but I still don’t like to see them armed with a supposedly “safe” weapon that can easily kill.
Posted by Maximillion, Friday, 19 June 2009 2:15:38 PM
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Leigh, if you eliminate the need for a woman to be attacked my a huge, angry male,
if you empower women in their own right,
with a women's legislature,
women looking after women's business,
you eliminate tasers in cross gender crisis.
meanwhile, let's play drive 'em psycho with a justice system
comprised of guessing as to just what might be on the mind of the other gender,
then stop 'em.
Posted by whistler, Friday, 19 June 2009 3:41:39 PM
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The recent death was dreadful, 36 times?
Was the cop full of fear? frozen?
Or a coward unable to stop?
Was he/she a sadist?
All these things are true of some police, some humans in every walk of life.
A few gladly few, police put the ego on with the uniform.
But would you rather we let criminals kill them?
Let them use tazers, but in the right way at the right time.
We should not let the few who are egos in uniform color our views a good cop is worth more than we pay them.
And if you need one you will not care if he/she uses a gun or tazer.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 19 June 2009 4:00:05 PM
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Count me among those who think Tasers are a good idea.

As others have said, there have always been rotten eggs in the police force. Not satisfied with being a policeman, they appoint themselves judge jury and executioner. Yes, they will abuse Tasers. But before Tasers they beat, pummel and otherwise abused their victims. Tasers might alter the form of abuse, but I don't see them altering the number of incidents, or making the problem worse. The reverse in fact. A night stick doesn't record how many times it was used to hit someone.

In fact, that seems to be the answer to the problem. Surveillance. It seems more and more those police that do cross the line get caught out on surveillance cameras. Putting cameras in the police cars would be a good step. Maybe one day we can put cameras in the police hat.

One step I would like to see taken though. Now the police have a reliable and moderately safe way to disable someone, it is time to lock the guns in the boot, where there were in yesteryear. The world will be a safer place for everyone - including the police.
Posted by rstuart, Friday, 19 June 2009 5:20:36 PM
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"Just like the quick fixes they use on children with ADD[retinol] so is the taser to policing."

Ritalin. Retinol is a vitamin.
Posted by Sancho, Friday, 19 June 2009 5:31:18 PM
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Ritalin is stupid. Sorry that was a bit simple but as accurate as I can get right now.

Tasers, stupid also (see aforementioned apology) and kids are already showing up to local parties with them - great.

Why don't we have the CCTV (is that correct?) like England?
Posted by The Pied Piper, Friday, 19 June 2009 5:51:35 PM
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