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How to restore democracy in Queensland
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Posted by one under god, Thursday, 11 June 2009 8:30:23 AM
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I agree, Daggett, democracy in Queensland is indeed under threat.
I agree with OUG that the existence of an Upper House, a probing and questioning media and also a half decent opposition would improve the functioning of democracy in Queensland. Joh Bjelke-Petersen, Peter Beattie and now Anna Bligh have all misused their power. There just haven't been enough checks and balances in place to curb their autocratic instincts. A parliamentary house of review is essential to good governance. Posted by Bronwyn, Thursday, 11 June 2009 1:25:49 PM
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dagget:
I feel gratified that there are others out there in this great wide wonderland (or should I say "Neverland") who are prepared to speak out against the sheer bastardry, bloody mindedness and inane arrogance of the Bligh "Inquisition"! We have NEVER really experienced a TRUE Democracy, but the remaining vestiges of what has been purported to be a Democracy are vanishing rapidly down the gurgler. These bombastic bastards who profess to represent the best interests of the community, are bulldozing their self-serving maniacal legislation through a frustrated and neutred Parliament, where any semblance of Opposition has melted into a morass of self pity and navel-gazing! We had Shire Amalgamations FORCED upon us, against the wishes of the populace, and are now paying dearly in every aspect of our local government`s ability to deliver services. We are facing massive rate increases and are hearing of many Regional Councils facing financial collapse. This was FORCED upon us regardless of our opposition to it, and has indicated the truth of the direction of a State Government totally out of control in it`s dealings with it`s constituents! All that can result from continuation of this type of "Democracy" is the inevitable shift towards insurrection and revolution in an effort to overthrow a group of tyrants who are starting to make the likes of Pinochet look good!....One could be forgiven for asking "When do the killings start?..or have they already?" Posted by Crackcup, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 10:40:11 AM
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Hyperbole and tub thumping aside this topic post is merely a conflict of ideologies.
What makes you think the LNP would have done any different? The state has liquidity problems. I would even question that it's the current premiers fault. I believe Queensland gets the governments it deserves. On one hand they want the land the moon and the stars but don't want to be involved (effort) or pay. In addition most don't care or can't see beyond the the immediate or emotional. Daylight saving Recycled water water restrictions. Some councils having abundances of water yet neighbouring areas don't. Bureaucratic in efficiencies too many councils. No real sense of the environment. Their attitudes towards the bay is classic. Not enough infrastructure to cope with the population. Businesses (developer) driven government priorities including councils regardless of which political side. No long term planning. Credit laws the worst in the country. The list goes on and on. Green fields mentality of development. SE Qld has more shopping centres per head per capita than any where else in the world (de facto control of retail). It one thing to be an armchair pontificator but it's another thing altogether to deal with the problems given the restraints. Yes I object to privatisation of essential services but I would ask the critics to tell me specifically a. What they would do i.e. how would they pay b. What 'different' do they believe the opposition would do. (I could use a good laugh) Bronwyn, I think the political decay is deeper than its unicameral system. I can't see that Qlders. Would even agree to an upper house being reinstituted. Daggett, 91% of courier mail on line survey ….good grief do you believe anything in the CM? My experience is they are less than objective prone to sensationalising. Take their argument about FOI it's all about their bottom line not the truth/information. Ludwig, Should they cut back on museum funding? After many of their displays are simply "ooh ahh" not really educational. Posted by examinator, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 12:14:05 PM
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l live in Far North Queensland. So you say Queensland but the thing is, we don't have a state government up here. Orphans we are. So please only ever say the government of SE Queensland for the sake of accuracy.
Thank you. Posted by TheMissus, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 5:42:03 PM
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Thanks all for your interested responses.
My apologies for going missing in action. I am fairly certain that no government in Australia, with the possible exception of the Howard Government, has stooped as low as the Queensland Government in recent weeks. Their incompetence and contempt for the wishes for the Queensland public has to be seen to be believed. Even quite a few infamous third world dictatorships are starting to look good in comparison to this crowd. I think Crackup's comparison of the Bligh Government with the Pinochet dictatorship is not too far wide of the mark. Whilst they have not yet resorted to outright repression, what they do is, nevertheless, every bit as dictatorial as the actions of the Pinochet regime were. --- examinator's many spurious arguments almost require a Master's thesis in response. I actually don't believe that the LNP would have been as bad as the Bligh/Fraser junta has turned out to be. In fact I did vote FOR Labor on a two-party preferred basis for reasons stated in: "Does it matter whether the Liberal National Party or Labor win Queensland elections?" at http://candobetter.org/node/1156 ... but since then the Labor Government has revealed itself to be even worse than we could reasonably have expected the LNP to be. However, this misses the point. If both major parties are judged to be as bad as each other, then surely the Queensland public deserve to be informed, by the newsmedia, of alternatives to the major parties, such as the Greens and myself. However the ABC, together with the Corporate newsmedia largely owned by Murdoch, refused to give any significant coverage to me, even though on one issue, my views of absolute opposition to further privatisation were totally consistent with the views of the electorate (84% according to the latest Galaxy Opinion Poll). For more information, see "Brisbane ABC suppresses alternative candidates in state elections despite listener dismay with major parties" at http://candobetter.org/node/1159 Posted by daggett, Sunday, 5 July 2009 9:53:02 PM
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we are run by public servants..and lawyers..[who are mainly after board seats and their over generouse super/pension entitlements..[as well as the public awards and rewards]...the game is more yes minester than people could realise
govt members dont write the legislation..[publicking sewer-vants do]beuro-rock-rats..[who are after our children[by dumbing them down[or stealing them from their parents]..and all are on that ladder..that leads to the natural rewards of civic duty..[the private education..the private health care...service to multinationals..[and meeting their need for power and kids]..ever seeking their own share of the intrenched powers
the public servants that feed..at the public trough of the serfs,...legally imbisiles..they are destined to enslavment and be bleed dry..[they are charged to pump us full of mutations and cancers,pooor health care and dental..while protecting those exploiting the common weal...via increased fees for servioces[and revenue raisng from fines fees levies taxes and duties...we are kept ignorant specificlly and by colluded design with even law subverted to their perversions
demon-autocracy..[demon-mockery]by design..sir joes fed the chooks[then watched them eat each other fighting to exclusivly be the only chook..but its pretty useless to fight the system...because there are only foxes in the henyard
they just change the party..now in power and the pub-licking servants move their adgenda ever onwards..with the new party machine men..[passing their new rules/gifts and powers into law by act and legislation allong the same paRTY LINE]..using the public instruments to subvert the common weal..[colliusivly and systematiclly[deliberatly and consistabntly]..from one elect-torial cycle to the next..ever heard of the massons[or the lions apex or the many other clubs and mens groups