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Should 'lifestyle' be a dirty word?

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Max
Yep it is what's your solutions?

Simple word, difficult action...Education!
We'd need to reconfigure quite a lot, schools, systems, media, but with a will it could be done, as long as we didn't listen to the "experts" who got us here in the first place.
I wish!
Posted by Maximillion, Thursday, 28 May 2009 7:57:07 AM
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“Lifestyle” is a noun and defined as “the habits, attitudes, tastes, moral standards, economic level, etc., that together constitute the mode of living of an individual or group.”

As a noun, “lifestyle” has no moral or qualitative value.

So I fail to see how it can possibly be a “dirty word” or a “clean word”.

What makes “lifestyle” dirty, clean, good, bad, rancid, puerile, unhealthy, healthy, parasitic, benevolent or anything else are the adjectives which used in conjunction with it.

Speaking personally, I prefer an "independent lifestyle", where I make the decisions which effect my life -

rather than leaving it to a bunch of government appointed, “expert” flunkies, who are overpaid to feel entitled to tell me what I am allowed to aspire to in terms of my “lifestyle”.

So to the question “should lifestyle a dirty word”

Only if your feel your “lifestyle” is a “dirty word”…

and I don’t.
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 28 May 2009 8:59:13 AM
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Examinator, if you really believe that things like fishing bans in Morton Bay are scientifically based you are even sillier than you sound.

They are based on green noise followed on Bleigh deciding she needs to shore up the green vote, followed by her deciding which electorates to penalise, followed by "government scientific advisers" writing the report to recomend the chosen areas be close.

I'm quite sure you know this, but won't acknowledge it.

The last thing we need is education on these & similar subjects. All we get then is your, or someone else's ideology jammed down out throat, as if it were truth. We have quite enough of that in our schools, & in our media all ready, thankyou.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 28 May 2009 12:04:02 PM
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Hasbeen,
Guess who has retired to/in Qld , likes fishing and votes LNP or other 'conservative' interests.

And of course you're a practising marine biologist, a fisheries expert. And was intimately involved in the research. Funny my daughter and I never ran across you while we were up to our armpits in mud taking samples, entering the data and other leg work. Perhaps we could have had a beer and compared our scientific data.

What is not under question is Bligh's political motives (as part of her decision making process) I have no 1st hand evidence either way . I haven't met her but judging by her ministers I have I'll go out on a limb and suggest they're politicians and human...damn.

Logically having seen a fair amount of the raw data and the processes I'm prepared to suggest that there is more than a little scientific basis for the report.

As for the spin in selling it, refer to the term 'politicians' and my previous caveats.

But be that as it may in this context Silly is subjective term.

Where was my ideology rammed down your 'throats' ? Oh yes eAnt and I were involved in the politics too, from an independent stance. we supported neither side and greens didn't stand.
Tip...Know who you're talking at and/or be objective .
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 28 May 2009 1:27:53 PM
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Col,
Fair point and objectively You're right of course, I do agree with your definition. I guess my concern is about the functional “over use” of the term where it is applied in abstract and it could mean all of your definition and god know what else.
e.g. What's the moral implications of feminine napkins , meat, coffee, houses, dubious investment schemes or even just living in Queensland.(Foxy's right about the poverty there ...imagine a cold 6 Deg night and the street person being warm and happy because they 'live in Qld!' All the issues and products that are marketed there under that term. The marketing slight of hand to sell unnecessary products etc. to the unwary.

Consider the property ad 'for as little as $568k – umpteen million you can invest in your life style at XXX so morality etc. is purchasable?

The term lifestyle was used in the objection to the discrete 2 bed hospice when in reality they were concerned about their house prices? (NIMBY selfish baseless fear on ICE). Having seen on line photos I wouldn't have any qualms to them being a neighbour ...I can't say the same for the others in the street.

BTW A number of 'retirement villages' use your term ' Independent Lifestyle, even for their
dementia and invalid hostels (one step before the hospice). Even my fertile imagination doesn't see or hopes that applies to you.

The pit falls and indoctrination of the spin doctors , media, advertising agency have rendered the term an insult to reality.

You're also correct that the term is neutral it's the usage that is the problem. Fair cop.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 28 May 2009 2:04:22 PM
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Dear Col,

Well put!

I think it was Calvin Coolidge (30th US President) who said:

"We demand entire freedom of action and then expect the
Government in some miraculous way to save us from
the consequences of our own acts - self government means
self reliance."

That's something my father believed in strongly.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 28 May 2009 2:55:13 PM
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