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WHY Are tobaco taxes going up?

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Otokonoko
At this stage one can't smoke within 3 mt of an entrance to a public building. This doesn't stop them from taking their last frantic drag, huling their buts or scrunching them into the pavement then exhailing as they enter the building.

Unfortunately I would have to say the majority of smokers I have seen have little or no regard for others and or public property while engaging in their unhealthy habbit.

The next level of bans is about to be rolled out and can't happen quick enough for me.

And by the way, guess who you have to complain to about illigal smoking. The police! Another waste of a valuable resourse.

So in essence they can tie up resourses like;
Ambos, Police, Medical assistance's, doctors, specialists, etc, etc, all the the expense of someone in need of 'non self inflickted' medical assistance.

So I guess at $14-$20 a pack now, their kids must be missing out big time. Poor buggers, they may not even get a feed if the taxes increase because most smokers won't give up, they will simply make someone else go without just so they can continus with their habbit.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 9 May 2009 7:15:07 AM
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we smokers KNOW we vare REVILED/hated despised..[even your blessed nurses and docters say they HATE us,going by the latest advert to bring in the new tax

but its fine YOU hating us
BUT
[WHEN YOUR DOCTER HATES YOU YOU DIE]
19,000 of us die each year...get it?

HOW MANY ARE MURDERED..[because of a few butts
because some retard blew smoke in their face

tax us all you like ...[BUT WE ARE THE ONES DYING]
oh its not called dying..[read the orbituaries,..
..its PASSED AWAY PEACEFULLY,..

ie .. drugged to their eyeballs..[MURDED]

we represent 5/6 ths of ALL THOSE
...''passed away''.. peacefully..

GET IT?

murder , drugs..[no autopsy],
passed away
peacefully

by docters and nurses passing us away

[;..like that docter that says he cant opperate]..
so pump the smokers full of drugs...[and pass them away

peacefully

how do they sleep[at night] as we get pawssed AWAY [peaceFULLY}

spend some of that tax take
on verifying these 19,000 deaths are legit
not some crazy docter getting revenge for a bit of smoke in his face[or standing on a cig butt and cutting his foot][or murdering the whole barrier reef,]...may you non smokers pass away peacefully...lol

you note the numbers arnt falling ..lol
when will YOUR NUMBER come up

when you too ...are pased waway peacefully...
[you too ..will become..[statisticlly at least] ...a smoker...lol
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 9 May 2009 7:51:46 AM
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I'm not entirely sure where your last post was leading, OuG. Are you saying that doctors and nurses hate smokers and, consequently, deliberately kill them? That's a bit far-fetched, don't you think? Even to say that they neglect smokers is a bit of a push. Undoubtedly there are some doctors who do, but there are also doctors who neglect women, fat people, children, men, gay people . . . the list goes on.

My nanna died of lung cancer, and I'd hardly say her death was peaceful. She was in extreme pain (though she still had it in her to disconnect the oxygen long enough for the occasional cigarette) and I doubt there was much room for peace there. No doubt the doctors gave her plenty of drugs to ease the pain. Is this murder? No. You put them in a no-win situation: you would condemn them if they refused to treat smokers; you condemn them if they used drugs to ease the pain of an inoperable cancer patient.

But back to the issue of tax. Cancer patients are expensive to the health system (even if it is only the cost of the drugs that make them 'pass away peacefully'). Cigarette butts cost money to clean up (and yes, people are paid to clean streets). Careless smokers occasionally cause fires (costing us a fair bit in fire services). All of this in the pursuit of a completely unnecessary and unhealthy pastime. So why shouldn't the government raise taxes to pay for the costs of smoking and to discourage the habit?
Posted by Otokonoko, Saturday, 9 May 2009 5:48:56 PM
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Anyway, I'm over this toppic. It will always be 'us against them' and in any case, it remains a 'personal choice', so if you choose to smoke then you know the consequences don't you.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 9 May 2009 6:33:59 PM
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otoko my point was most of the 'dead' people are smokers...[going from the statistics]its well over half..[yet when you read the orbituaries 9 out of ten say died peacefully...lol..[ie thus they had been given drugs]maybe they died FROM the drugs..[no one is checking!

then i recall the latest advert about not smoking[..where the docter says i cant operate,..where healthy young acters are ACTING sick...[we all know the power of advertising..

[so think of the docters getting the subliminal message..they cant do nothing..[but drug em..[so thus use the drugs to'ease'..the suffering and empty a bed for the next non smoker they can serve

mate you seen the pictures they put on cigarette packets[a gangerenous foot from some mountain climber..[yellowed DEFORMED teeth[as if smoking deforms teeth]..some close up of a cold sore etc etc

[its all subliminal yet in ya face at the same time

read the CAUSE of death is not being recorded properly...[in usa EVERYday the equivent of 5 jumbo jets[fully loaded dies EACH DAY, from adverse reaction to perscribed drugs

[perscribed by a docter..[one in ten hospital deaths are adverse reaction]..YET THEY DONT REVEAL THEMSELVES in the causes of deaths

i can only presume that they become'smokers'[statisiclly]..to build up the stats..[dying peacefully is code for dying in hospital..[druged to the eyeballs]

THE LEAST WE SHOULD DO IS autopsy..[BEFORe claiming the statistics have any believability]

the adverts are a clear egzaduration..[why are the death statists deemed so trustworthy?...[its not a science opinion its a docters word[NO AUTOPSIES ARE CONDUCTED..[unless suspitious death is reported..

[but no one is suss]

HOW COME CANCER DEATHS HAVNT FALLEN..[in fact increased]..used to be EVERYONE smoked from ww1 to late nineties,..yet the cancer deaths still keep going up[something strange [dont you think?]

think..smoking CAUSES heart disease..[so ALL heeart attacks become smoker death's..[smoking causes pluricy/lung cancer so all lung DISEASES become smoking DEATHS

[if its been said to be caused by smoking..THEY ALL END UP IN THE SMOKING death statistics REGARDLESS of their real cause
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 9 May 2009 8:48:57 PM
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First of all, G's & Grl's, we are all primed (white lines in the sky called chem-trails)
Than we take in fluoride and Chlorine in our water,than you meat-eaters get sodium NITRITE (which keeps the meat red.)
Shall I go on?
Yes.. the tobacco factories lace it with god knows what to keep you hooked.
Go for chop-chop when you can,I'd say! Or grow your own.
My father gave me changed (tobacco) genes and as a true bacteria with virus helpers/keepers/cleaners, I developed a resistance to tobacco caused illnesses and can live with less oxygen like we all have. Just look at the dropped total worldwide oxy figures over the past 100years. It's all in the immune system. If you are weak anything can get you!
Posted by eftfnc, Monday, 11 May 2009 3:33:55 PM
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