Here on IndoVision we are getting some great *Green Docs* coming thru on BBC Knowledge, Nat Geo and Discovery (the only 1 of the 3 without subtitles)

CNN also is pumping Green reports and *Bazza Obama* is allegedly going to have a lash at changing the rules to reign in the polluters and provide "fertile ground" for the freshly re-emerging and new technologies.

Here's a cool one for the water issue, fit for the house or on a larger scale:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmzY8PcyKeY

There's lots of ways to spin a turbine and there's lots of ways to generate steam. We've got great waves, great hot rocks, great solar coverage - it's simply no longer a scientific challenge to solve the problem, other than how to get the industrial and political parasites off the populace.

*FoxY*

A sub mariner mate was a great fan of H2Fuel Cells. Murdoch Uni had a great program until j.howard et al trashed it.

Still, minaturising the block has been an issue. And of course,a big platinum block can be pricey. Otherwise they're deluxe. It appears that some of the big manufacturers are being encouraged to diversify into green solutions as part of their debt recovery programs though so time will tell I assume.

Pelican, anybody who wants an electric vehicle can have one.

For instance, the Blade Runner is an Australian retrofit of a Hyundai Getz: http://www.bev.com.au/

Now, the specs are pretty good. All that examinator would ask for surely. I'd be happy with one.

Obviously I was exaggerating about the Mopeds.

Joe Sixpack (mentioned earlier) uses a V6 or V8 commodore, expects a top speed of more than 200km/h, gets zero to 60 in five seconds flat, can tow a couple of tonnes and scorns the lesser luxury and elbow room. He pays at least $50 a week in fuel for that, probably more like $100 if he drives any significant distance.

Joe can't have what he expects as the bare minimum for his dignity without a *great* heap of solar cells.

But it is still not free. If everybody has one we will need more power stations and/or lots of solar.

Rusty,
I see your point sort of But last year on "the inventors" (great show nausiating presenter) a man demonstrated a verticle wind generator he claimed that 5 at 3 meters could power a small 3 story office building. Add to that the new technology in batteries a as per American Scientific and in a different context "Top Gear UK". They have a car that can go faster than a ferrari albeit for a short time. There are cars that are comparatively slow off the mark but can get over 300 miles and 5 hour charge and can extend the charge on the fly.
Given the The story of the Sony Walkman.... all he did was combine exiting technology and ....mega Pay dirt! Lateral thinking!
All the debates else where are looking for ONE BIG solution The Holy Grail frankly that's BS.
PS
I've change my name to John Howard. :-)

All new technology is expensive at the beginning.
And many experts believe that hydrogen powered cars
for the consumer are still 3 - 10 years away.

However the experts also believe, "The biggest challenge
is now developing not only less expensive technology but
also a refueling infrastructure to support consumers."

Hydrogen powered cars are the future.

Examinator asked for us to get away from the "Same Old
Mindsets," that's all I'm trying to do.

The following website may also be of interest:

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/hydrogen-powered-cars.htm

Foxy, why are you so keen on hydrogen, as a replacement transport fuel?

The production of hydrogen requires lots of hydrocarbons, [oil or gas], or lots of electricity. As such, it is a wasteful use of either, in the current context. Something of a blind ally in fuel development, I have always thought.

Is there something new, we don't know about?

More than likely there have been plenty of entrepreneurs that have dipped their toe in the water on renewable energy production. The problem is that they are all saplings trying to grow in the Sahara. There is not enough support or shelter for them to withstand the competition from the major fossil fuel companies. The other problem for them is that when they come up with a good idea, they are immediately bought out or knocked on the head by the bigger companies.

Re hydrogen power, as others have said, the problem is that hydrogen batteries have to be made using conventional fossil-fuel generated electricity. So there's no great advantage to reducing greenhouse gases unless carbon capture and storage can be made workable and the CO2 is pumped straight underground from one source (the power station) rather than having millions of pollution points (the exhaust pipes of every vehicle on the road) as currently.