Australia certainly does not need a Bill of Rights. Despite what they say, judges and lawyers do take over the role of elected representatives.

Leftist, like the ex-Labor politician referred to by Horus, have to continually look for ways to undermine society. The ‘rights’ issue is one of their tools.

Horus has also noticed that these people seem more concerned about the ‘rights’ of illegal entrants; Australian citizens rarely get a mention. So the motive behind the yapping of these activists is not the betterment of their own country and countrymen, but for people who want to lob here without invitation, demand rights, but spit on obligations. Using Cornelia Rau as an example of the need for an upgrade of human rights (as Horus reports than Ryan did) is ludicrous. The woman had personal problems which contributed to a mistake made by Immigration. She has recently been incarcerated after wandering around Syria, unmedicated. The Australia Government was blamed, even for that foreign sojourn, by relatives.

Rights are those which we have legislated for over a long, long time. (In the West, that is. The people we are supposed to extend more rights to than we have ourselves don’t come from the West). When people say, “I have the right to….” It usually means that they have the right to get their own way. Rights are only those which are legislated and enforceable. Even then, the ‘right to life’ and some others which would seem pretty basic to most of us do not guarantee life. If someone is going to take your life, there is not much point in using your supposed right to life as a defensive measure.

The rights debate has been instigated and pushed by people who will never be happy in any society. The lawyers, judges and, perhaps, politicians have personal motives – more power and prestige, or more time to look after themselves and future prospects where politicians are concerned. The others should be written off as nutters who don’t know when they are well off

In Teoh case the High Court ruled the United Nations declaration created legally binging expectations and obligations on the Commonwealth.

Justices of the High Court betrayed trust placed in them by Australians concerning their Constitution and its amending, failing to restrain Commonwealth within Australian peoples anti- discriminatory goals and purposes - both at Federation and 1967, for NO legislation discriminating between Australians on racial grounds.

Disgracefully the High Court permits Commonwealth legislation making it lawful to discriminate, to segregate, treat differently on racial grounds, to permit Commonwealth require we tick boxes on their forms for racial grouping of Australians, all so Commonwealth can practice racism easier.

Wailers re NT Emergency legislation did not seek turn off discriminatory practices.

Wailed for racially discriminatory practices, particularly within the ALR(NT) and related acts.

Meaningless if when seek issues resolved IF need be resolved in court for the Commonwealth refuses, thwarts legal aid requests.

Denial of legal representation despite requirement by Courts, delays cases.

Ongoing see denial of Traditional Owner(s) otherwise held rights as Australians for their family to live with or visit them in their home.

Since ALR(NT) 30 years ago see ongoing failure, ongoing denial, refusal to issue tenants leases for their houses all constructed using public grants monies - because giving leases will give tenants rights!

Leases are central to development, so little actually occurs within communities, is hard to attract investments, hard obtain commitments of private capital, hard to satisfy banks give home loans...

Result is ongoing requirement people beg or comply with corrupt racist practices... and now we see failed education, failed because refuse to teach...

13, ALL ARE EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW AND ARE ENTITLED WITHOUT ANY DISCRIMINATION TO EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAW.

Take a look at the present situation in Fiji.

Quote from newspaper -- The country has had an extraordinary few days sparked by a court ruling last Thursday that prime minister Frank Bainimarama’s regime, in power since a 2006 coup , was illegal under it’s 1997 constitution.

The following day, the country’s ailing elderly president and Bainimarama ally, Ratu Josefa Ilollo, backed up by the military sacked the judges, dissolved the constitution and ruled out any election for five years. The few international reporters on the ground, the last Bastion of press freedom in the country, were deported yesterday.

This idea of human rights is a lovely idea, but if the men holding the guns, the warlords or the army don’t like the judges they are likely to imprison them or shoot them.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again forget law courts and rights they are no damm good to you if the men with the guns and power are not on your side.